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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Why are you right? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
He discovered the blasphemies against Christ in the Talmud (born of a prostitute among other things) You seem to know a lot about the Talmud. Could you please quote the relevant passages?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Faith's god has self-esteem issues and needs the faith part to prop up its fragile ego.
The good works isn't really important to her god. But getting its ego massaged is. Edited by Theodoric, : typoFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
More importantly why was this topic even promoted?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Faith cannot conceived that the how you are and how you know are different things.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Faith plus works will in fact damn you. So say you.How does anyone know you are correct? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
It's certainly not "so say I" but so say all the Reformers and well taught Protestants today. How do you know they are correct?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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It seems this he and Sessions consider anything not military spending to be welfare. Education is welfare? That is ridiculous.
It is amazing that single mothers are the cause of all the problems in the US. I didn't realize that we had so many virgin births. Cuz it seems kof seems to think there are no fathers responsible at all for these children.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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This is just a typical jar type accusation and rabbit trail, nothing to do with the topic of the historical conflict between Romanism and Protestantism. Actually it has everything to do with it. If you want to run away from the facts and practice historical revisionism that is your choice. Just don't get upset when others call you out on it.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Here is some official Protestant action.
Protestant Church Apologizes for Massacring Native Americans Do you know anything about the Puritans? They were Protestant.They believed they had a god given right to the native peoples land. They felt if the could not convert the natives it was acceptable to slaughter them. They claimed the Pequot massacres of 1637 were directed by their god.
quote:Segal and Stinenback, Puritans, Indians, and Manifest Destiny, pp. 111-112 Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
And Protestants are responsible for most of the the genocide of the Native Americans.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
BUT none of it was done FOR PROTESTANT PURPOSES as Roman Catholic atrocities were all in the service of their RELIGIOUS GOALS which is the point of this thread believe it or not.
If you keep doing these mental contortions your head is going to explode.By all means the actions of the Puritans were for religious goals. It was a theocracy. They were following the will of their god. What the hell else could it have been for? You are the classic.
quote: Define your terms, come up with real evidence, names, dates, places, stop just mouthing your favorite canned accusations.
I already have. You refuse to even consider the evidence presented. I can provide much more, but your inability to consider reality does not make it worth my time. You are trolling. Until you stop trolling I won't waste my time. Unless of course you again say something exceedingly stupid that I ethically can not let pass unchallenged. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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All your post does is expose your utter ignorance of the subject. You speak as if the Indian tribes were one monolithic culture. Native American tribes were extremely diverse.
We actually have very little idea what the cultures were like prior to a European presence. tens of millions of Native Americans died from disease before they ever had contact with the "white" people. Please study the subject before you post crap. A good start is 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus Your post is ignorant and racist.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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or Mao pushed China forward I was not going to respond to this because it is so off topic. But I cannot let it stand. I thought at first that the comment was based on utter ignorance or abject stupidity. I think though it comes from the same place as Faith's historical revisionism. There is a need by the fundie right to spin historical facts to meet the preconceived world view. It is lying for Jesus.
The Great Leap Forward did not propel China forward. It almost destroyed the nation. It did kill millions of people and China stayed a primarily agrarian society. Edited by Theodoric, : forgot "not"Thanks again Jar Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Jar doesn't even adhere to his own church's reference to God as "Father" as he so often uses the blaphemous "She" to refer to God, and many other ways he likes to twist Christian teaching to suit his own ideas of what "not checking your brain at the door" means to his own peculiar brain. How do you sex a god?
But I can refer to his system as Liberal Protestantism.
But it is still a branch of Protestantism. It certainly ain't Catholicism.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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