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Author Topic:   Catholicism versus Protestantism down the centuries
vimesey
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Message 11 of 1000 (681986)
11-29-2012 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
11-28-2012 3:04 PM


Maybe not all were that divinely inspired...
God then raised up a number of men in one generation from within the ranks of Roman Catholicism who saw Rome's errors by the light of the Bible and finally saw it as in essence not merely rife with errors in need of moral reformation, but doctrinally opposed to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
Just to season that statement a little, the principal reason behind the founding of the Church of England (one of the world's largest protestant denominations) was that our king at the time wanted a divorce, so that he could bonk somebody else - so he wasn't quite one of the divinely inspired brigade.
(Still, Martin Luther et al were probably of slightly greater integrity, so I won't make too much out of the quibble).

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 22 of 1000 (682002)
11-29-2012 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Faith
11-29-2012 12:41 PM


Re: Maybe not all were that divinely inspired...
That was pretty much where I (and Rahvin) were coming from. The history of Protestantism (and particularly its relationship with the Catholic Church) isn't completely the heroic picture you rather lyrically painted in the initial post.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 106 of 1000 (682344)
12-01-2012 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 10:21 AM


Re: Let's ask the Catholics about Salvation
Can I just clarify something with you please kofh2u - you are presumably aware that the scale on the y-axis of the graph you provided in message 104 is different from the scale on the y-axis of the graph you provided in message 101 by a factor of 10 ? (And yet purports to show (roughly) the same data).

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 165 of 1000 (682445)
12-02-2012 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Theodoric
12-02-2012 12:47 PM


Re: Liberal Protestantism is not Protestantism
How do you sex a god?
Carefully. Really, really carefully.

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vimesey
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Message 179 of 1000 (682464)
12-02-2012 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Faith
12-02-2012 3:36 PM


Re: The Essential Distinctions between the Papacy and Protestantism
I do like the use of capitals Faith - I like the emphasis and the conviction it shows.
But I thought I'd examine this particular use of capitals, because I had a recollection it was wrong:
enormities of cruelty and murder such as those perpetrated by the Roman Church in the Inquisition, for which they have NEVER apologized nor repented
Did you catch this story (it was a few years ago, but your use of the capitalised "NEVER" suggested to me that you'd fully researched this): Pope says sorry for sins of church | World news | The Guardian
(I've just remembered that we don't debate by link on EVC, so just to clarify, this is a story where Pope John Paul II apologised for the inquisition and a bunch of other attrocities committed by the RC church over the years. So your use of NEVER (particularly in its emphasised and capitalised form), appears incorrect).
Edited by vimesey, : Remembered to follow guidelines

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