Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 0/368 Day: 0/11 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Evolution and Specialness of Humanity
Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 12 of 316 (249227)
10-05-2005 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by joshua221
10-05-2005 6:53 PM


Charlie, may I ask why such a low opinion of humanity? I really only see this in Christianity. It was Xianity that told me I was nothing, evolution shows me that I am very special and unique.
Xianity has brainwashed people into believing that without god they are worthless. People are so scared of being nothing that they will latch onto anything that promises to forgive them for it.
You are basically saying that without god telling you how special you are, you are too stupid to figure it out on your own. You would be a sociopath, not caring about anything without some god telling you to.
It is the same as the argument about morality. Without god telling you not to rape, pillage, and plunder would you be out there doing it all the time?
The more I look at it the more it seems to me that it is XIANITY that robs us of feeling special.
This message has been edited by Asgara, 10-05-2005 06:08 PM

Asgara
"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"
select * from USERS where CLUE > 0
http://asgarasworld.bravepages.com
http://perditionsgate.bravepages.com

This message is a reply to:
 Message 8 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 6:53 PM joshua221 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 15 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 7:28 PM Asgara has replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 16 of 316 (249239)
10-05-2005 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by joshua221
10-05-2005 7:28 PM


The more I look at it, the more I realize that blind accpetance leads to a pretend passion for imaginary past events.
That I will definately agree with.
Glad I don't accept evolution blindly.
Blind acceptance is what happens when you close your eyes and refuse to see the evidence in front of you because it makes you feel icky, and instead blindly follow anything that tells you you're special.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 15 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 7:28 PM joshua221 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 19 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 7:42 PM Asgara has replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 21 of 316 (249247)
10-05-2005 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by joshua221
10-05-2005 7:42 PM


I know you can see the evidence, you have admitted as much. What else you have admitted to is closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears, and going LALALA because you don't "like" what the evidence tells you.
After the earth, nothing matters to you and the evo-bots, to me it just begins to matter.
Ah, but here you are mistaken. An acceptance of evolution has nothing to do with whether or not anyone has faith in an afterlife.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 19 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 7:42 PM joshua221 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 28 by joshua221, posted 10-05-2005 8:43 PM Asgara has not replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 51 of 316 (249617)
10-06-2005 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by joshua221
10-06-2005 8:03 PM


Re: Uniqueness
Charlie, don't you see that you are making xians out to be sociopaths? Do you honestly believe that without a belief in your god that there would be no feelings? no love? no morality?
I am so glad I'm not a xian. I couldn't stand living that way.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 50 by joshua221, posted 10-06-2005 8:03 PM joshua221 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 66 by joshua221, posted 10-07-2005 9:22 PM Asgara has not replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 181 of 316 (251964)
10-15-2005 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by joshua221
10-15-2005 11:27 AM


Charlie, it is people like you, that absolutely refuse to see that there is no conflict between science and religion, that cause people to lose their faith.
When people have been told for so long that there IS a conflict, that they can't accept evolution if they believe in your god...what are they going to do when the evidence is right before their eyes? They are going to end up questioning your religion like Mike, or they are going to stick their fingers in their ears and yell "LA LA LA LA, I'm not going to listen to you because I'm special,"....like you.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 180 by joshua221, posted 10-15-2005 11:27 AM joshua221 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 186 by joshua221, posted 10-15-2005 12:57 PM Asgara has replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 189 of 316 (251983)
10-15-2005 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by joshua221
10-15-2005 12:57 PM


Maybe you can explain how seeing the physical world and allowing the possibility of the non is not "see(ing) past the physical world." I see the possibility of many things and the reality of many more. And everything I see is beautiful.
You on the other hand don't seem able to accept that there is a physical world. You are the one showing a limited acceptance of the world around you. You look and look but do not see.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 186 by joshua221, posted 10-15-2005 12:57 PM joshua221 has not replied

Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 190 of 316 (251984)
10-15-2005 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by mike the wiz
10-15-2005 12:53 PM


Re: The loss of God, because of man.
Welcome back Mikey, we've missed you around here. Glad to see you're still searching, keep it up hun.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 185 by mike the wiz, posted 10-15-2005 12:53 PM mike the wiz has not replied

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024