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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: To the contrary, evolution cannot proceed without uniqueness. Have you learned nothing about Biology in all the hours you have spent here?
quote: It seems to me that Christianity strives to make everyone less unique, not more. Isn't that why conservative Christians are courted by Republicans as a voting block? Don't they tend to, as a group, hold to the same views, such as "abortion should be illegal", "legal marriage should be ONLY be between one man and one woman", and "government-run school prayer should be legal". This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-05-2005 08:30 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Hmm, let's see if "spiritual truth" can help more than "evidence" while we work to understand how to fight HIV so that we can save many lives. Which do you think is going to work better in this specific case, dearheart?
quote: After your own fragile ego, nothing matters to you.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yes, yes, I'm terribly "clouded with science", blah, blah, blah.
quote: Excuse me, but who the hell do you think you are to tell me what I am all about? I have been in a deeply committed relationship with someone longer than you have even been alive. Do not presume to lecture me about "the essential" or "love". Your arrogance is very, very irritating. Now, try again.
quote: Hmm, let's see if "spiritual truth" can help more than "evidence" while we work to understand how to fight HIV so that we can save many lives. Which do you think is going to work better in this specific case, dearheart? quote: After your own fragile ego, nothing matters to you.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Without reproduction or survival of individuals, there is no continuation of life. Sorry if this reality intrudes upon your preferred mystical world view.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
If we were robots, that might indeed be reason for despair. But we are not robots. There is nothing in the theory of evolution that requires we be like robots. quote: ...and you would deny the fact that allele frequencies in populations change over time simply because the acceptance of such allows for a person to become "robot-like"?? Belief in God doesn't "require" one to become a suicide bomber but it does "allow" it. Doesn't this mean that you should reject religious belief? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-05-2005 10:04 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So you would be against Christianity, which strives to have everyone think and act and believe the same things, and you would be in support of humanism, which recognizes each person's uniqueness and encourages everyone to be themselves as long as it causes no harm to others. Right?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Prophex, do you accept the fact that allele frequencies in populations change over time?
Yes or no? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-06-2005 10:35 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
What do you know about love, Charlie?
Compared to the rest of us who are twice your age or more, that is? Please, instruct us ignorant fools in your infinite wisdom regarding love. I'm listening.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Actually, I believe it was YOU who implied that I don't know about love because I accept the evidence for Biological evolution, Charlie. That's why I'd like you to explain to all of us what true love is all about. Clearly, you believe you know better than the rest of us, so I'd like to absorb some of your infinite wisdom. I'm listening
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, raising happy, healthy loving children wouldn't fulfill you? What about volunteering for a literacy program, or at a battered women's shelter? Unfulfilling, in your book?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Prophex, do you accept the fact that allele frequencies in populations change over time?
Yes or no?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Prophex, do you accept the fact that allele frequencies in populations change over time? quote: Do you accept the following facts?: 1) Organisms reproduce. 2) The offspring are not genetically identical. 3) Not all offspring survive to reproduce. 4) Offspring who's inherited genetic traits confer an advantage to reproductive success will be more likely to have their own offspring survive to reproduce. Do you accept the fact that all of these things happen?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No, you have it wrong. I have done some of these things, but not others. The point is, when someone stated that one can have a very fulfilling, positive, loving life without believing in God, you replied:
quote: You seem to be making some very bigoted assumptins about the goals and values of all non-believers. You quite clearly seem to assume that all of us care only about Social/Economic gain and nothing else. That is offensive and insulting.
quote: So, this is how you know all of us who accept Biological science think, is it? Based upon the arguments from us in this thread? Is that what you are basing your notion upon?
quote: Your selfrighteousness, arrogance and bigotry are amazing, simply breathtaking.
quote: What a fabulous, wonderous world it is with all of those millions of species in it. It's too bad that you are so insecure that you need to feel more important than everything else in it or else you will crumble.
quote: Can you please explain to me where any of this is mentioned in a Biology textbook? Can you explain how the observed change in allele frequencies in populations over time is related to what you just wrote?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Why is it fake?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
How do you tell the difference between a real feeling of love and a fake feeling of love?
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