Evolution and Specialness of Humanity

Well, that is all it can hope to be. It certainly can’t be backed up by any evidence. . and every other organism has unique abilities that separate them from every other organism. Everything is unique in it's own way. Yes indeed we are. Nature is a fascinating thing and we are part of it. I think it’s amazing. and body size, shape, hair, vocal chords, arms, hands, habitat, behaviour . I don’t think I’ll go through them all. Excuse me, but my movements, actions and thoughts are neither meaningless nor robotic. You need more experience out in the world before you have the right to judge my or anyone else’s life as meaningless. Even then you’d be on thin ice. What’s right for one may be wrong for another. So what? I really don’t see a problem with living for that. Piffle. I have been an atheist for several years, and I only really found purpose, meaning and goals to aim for since becoming one. You need to realise and accept that there are a lot of people in the world who do not believe in God yet manage to have a good, successful, productive and fulfilling life. That said, I’m not about to tell you or anyone else what to believe or how to conduct their lives. It's up to each of us to determine what is best for us. If you really feel you need to believe in God and Creation, then quite possibly you do. I’d rather nature than God. Especially the Christian God, He doesn’t sound like a loving, caring God at all. If God were a person that I knew, I’d probably consider him a complete bastard, and an incompetent one at that. Well, so be it. At least when natural events cause the deaths of thousands of people, I find it is a little easier to accept. There is nothing personal involved, just really tragic bad luck. What I find unacceptable is the idea that there is a God that is supposed to care and could have done something, but didn’t. It isn’t. Hawking up and spitting on the sidewalk is gross. Farting in a crowded elevator is gross. Stepping in dog’s poo is gross. Michael Jackson is gross. Disembowelled roadkill is gross. Interacting with my wife, family and friends is most definitely NOT gross. In fact, I think the world of them, despite being an evo-atheist. I beg your pardon, but it is indeed real. Being a tool of survival doesn’t make it less real. I don’t think I quite follow what your definition of ”real’ is, but it seems to be different from mine. At any rate, it’s not up to you to judge the validity of other people’s feelings and emotions.

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Back again, I've been busy for the last few days and haven't had a chance to post Thanks, it’s always nice to be noticed . Ok, maybe I did do a bit of a rant and go a bit further than the general scope of what you’re trying to discuss. But to summarise the basic point your trying to make, it seems to be thus:Believing in Evolution invalidates all human actions, feelings and emotions because they are nothing more than manifestations of the desire to survive as a species. They are fake and meaningless (your own words). Accepting Creation and the whole God thing is the only way there can be any purpose to one’s life.Is this what you are trying to say? Have I read your idea correctly? You may not intend it, but can’t you see that you are judging? It’s one thing to present your view of Evolution and why you don’t accept it. Fine, you have the right to think and believe whatever you please. However, you’ve actually been telling people that what they experience is not genuine because they don’t subscribe to your worldview. You’re implying that those people and the lives they live are somehow inferior to yours. This is taking a big step across the line. You appear to be taking a moral high ground that is quite unjustified. We have an expression here in Oz for people who do such things - ”Pull your head in’.And I wonder how I gave you the idea that I am “obviously” into social/economic gain. I certainly don’t wish to be famous, and I don’t care for greed or blatant profiteering. I like to gain respect from my close associates for my abilities and intelligence, otherwise I’m happy to keep to myself in the background. I’m not aiming for riches either. Enough to pay the bills and do the things I enjoy is all I need and want. This is hardly what I’d call social/economic gain in the sprit you seemed to be implying, I’d describe it as finding a satisfying, practical and sustainable niche in which to live. Isn't that what most of us want? And I’m hoping that your social/economic gain comment was not a blanket assumption of the motives of all evos and/or atheists, because that would just be prejudice, plain and simple. Prejudice is dangerous, it's forming an opinion without knowing any of the facts.

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Viking?? Just for the record it ain't no Viking, even though the name I use is. It is actually one of Monty Pythons 'Gumbys'. Forget about evolution, creation, spirituality and all that stuff. Without Python, my life really would be meaningless!

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