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Author Topic:   Is ID scientific ? Yet another approach to the question.
crashfrog
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Message 21 of 47 (241198)
09-08-2005 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by John Ponce
09-07-2005 10:42 PM


In my experience, people of many disciplines, and especially engineers, are advocates of some form of ID - perhaps because they understand by experience how difficult a process it is to design reliable functionality (even with tons of education and intelligence).
I guess I don't understand that reasoning - no intelligence that we're aware of is able to design something that even approaches the complexity of a single living cell.
Therefore - intelligence must have done it!
I don't get it. If the best intelligences we're aware of can't even get us halfway there, isn't that a pretty good indication that something other than intelligence was responsible in the first place?
I suggest folks like Annafan and Nuggin are remiss to believe all or most proponents of ID are just religiously motivated or even "liars for Jesus".
Well, I'll make a deal with you. Us evolutionists will stop calling creationists and ID'ists liars for Jesus and religiously motivated as soon as you can get the creationists and ID'ists to stop referring to use evolutionists as "godless", "amoral", "haters of God's authority", "rapists and murderers", "arrogant", "small-minded", "blinded by assumptions", "sinners deserving of death", and other charming terms.
Oh, and you have to get them to stop lying for Jesus, too. If you can do all that we'll play nicey-nice with the creationists. After all they did start it.

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 24 of 47 (241519)
09-08-2005 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Physrho
09-08-2005 9:04 PM


Re: Just trying to get in
Though I think it's a bit wierd why most scientists would not like to accept a possibility of a God.
It's not just weird, it's false. Studies show that, at least in America, around half of all scientists believe in the existence of God.
But you'll rarely find even an atheist who denies the possibility of God; it's the reality of God that we don't accept.
Other than that, though, the reasoning in your post bears absolutely no resemblance to any reliable process by which we might determine what is accurate and what is not.

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crashfrog
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Message 38 of 47 (244515)
09-18-2005 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Truth
09-17-2005 9:52 PM


Re: This is how it works here
That's great, but how is any of that a response to my post 21, which you replied to?
And if you didn't mean to respond to my points, why did you reply to my post? Are you sure you're in the right thread for your questions?

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