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Author Topic:   Is ID scientific ? Yet another approach to the question.
1.61803
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Message 29 of 47 (242193)
09-11-2005 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Nuggin
09-09-2005 5:33 PM


Re: What is the use of ID?
Intelligent design. Usually these discussions end up in a fray of semantics. "what do you mean by intelligence?" What do you mean by design?" etc..ad nausem.
It jerks atheist bobbers when any inkling of god rears its head in a discussion, much less the class room. Words like psuedo science and "creationism in a new pair of shoes" begin to crop up. All so predicatable.
I for one hope we never find the answers out because then what the fuck would we have to talk about? Reality TV?
Age old phlosophy and arguments recycled and rehashed. The bottom line is that nature is just as mysterious as any god or Intelligent designer one would care to postulate.
What one man calls god another calls nature.
There is no practical way to know if the universe is a product of design from a designer, or just is. Period.
Humans have only been around for a geologically short period of time and on the grander scheme of things are fairley insignificant. It is only important that there be a designer to those people who for what ever reasons choose to believe that it is so. It gives them a warm fuzzy. Perhaps it keeps them out of the pit of nihlism.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled debate.
1.61803 signing out.

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1.61803
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Message 30 of 47 (242198)
09-11-2005 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Brad McFall
09-10-2005 3:31 PM


How energy manifest reality through the fundelmental forces which allows for such a thing as an apple.
I think the Beatles said it best.
"Because the Earth is round, it blows my mind.
Because....the Earth is round.
Because the wind is strong it makes me high.
Because the wind. Is strong.
Because the sky is blue, it makes me cry.
Because....the sky.....is blue."

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1.61803
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Message 32 of 47 (242366)
09-11-2005 10:31 PM
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09-11-2005 11:34 AM


Re: be(:thecause
Of course Leibniz assumes the reality of matter manifested (IS) resultant upon THINGS. Does the tree make a sound Brad? Do shadows suggest to more, or (TWO)more; than what is actualized? Biology is a word and the mathmatics merely a language.
"Because the sky is blue....Ahhhhhhh-ahh. Love is old love is new.
Love is all love is you." The Beatles

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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