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Author Topic:   Is ID scientific ? Yet another approach to the question.
Physrho
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Message 23 of 47 (241516)
09-08-2005 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by crashfrog
09-08-2005 12:40 AM


Just trying to get in
I just want t ask a few questions. First, I do believe in a creator. I believe that a creator cannot be disproven, yet cannot be proven.
The fact is, either we were made by God or we weren't. No one at this present time can explain existance. Though I think it's a bit wierd why most scientists would not like to accept a possibility of a God. ID may be able to be refuted through opinionized beliefs, yet the fact remains that it is still a possibility. Actually there are only two possibilities. (Meaning there is a 50/50 chance of one being correct.)
One being that all existance and even our own creation was completely random and happened by chance and a whole lot of time. Second, we were created by an intelligent designer who had a purpose for all existance. Scientifically, how can you prove or disprove either?
The fact is, we are here. And we got here by some act either willful or not. I don't see anything wrong in a ID hypothesis and even a theory. As long as a possibility remains, then why not scientifically try to either prove it or disprove it?
So there are two possibilities, and then there are three possible beliefs. Belief 1atheist) I refuse to have any faith an intelligent designer because I would rather not believe in a God.
Belief 2theist) I exist, therefore there must be a designer. I choose to believe my designer created us with intelligence and purpose and I would rather believe in ID.
belief 3agnostic) I don't know, show me some solid evidence and I can be swayed either way.
belief 3: doesn't change the truth of the only two possibilities.
So beliefs of origin are really a choice of preference. How could I expect to prove to anyone the existance of a God when they choose not to believe in one? And how could someone who chooses not to believe in a God expect to change the viewpoint of someone who Chooses to believe in ID?
So if both possibilities are potential truths waiting only to be proven, then why exclude one from the textbooks.
Anthony Flew, a notorious frontrunner for the 'Evolution proves there is no God' belief, has had changed his viewpoint changed because he realized in himself that ID was indeed a possibility that could not be disproven. If you only teach proveable science then we must eliminate all hypothesis on origins. Unfortunately the study of origins drives all scientists. So can we scientifically have any faith in ID? Yes, because mathmatics has shown that Abiogenisis/Spontaneous generation, take just as much, if not more faith to belief. Does this mean even Athesists have faith? I believe it does due to the fact that ID cannot be, at this present moment be disproven. So their belief is in one of the two possibilities.
This message has been edited by Physrho, 09-08-2005 09:04 PM

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