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nwr
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Message 7 of 207 (634674)
09-23-2011 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Modulous
09-22-2011 2:00 PM


Can science even investigate the supernatural?

Yes, of course science can investigate the supernatural.
The thing is that when science investigate and explains the supernatural, it calls the result "natural." So the effect is to diminish what is considered supernatural, and to increase what is considered natural.
Much that was once in the province of supernatural religion is now natural. If the religions were smart, they would embrace the natural and declare that their God is nature itself. However, they instead continue to insist on a supernatural God, and their God is being diminished as science moves areas from the mysterious supernatural to the understood natural.

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nwr
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Message 28 of 207 (634737)
09-23-2011 3:51 PM
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09-23-2011 1:44 PM


Re: I'm thor it happened that way ... (thaid Tom with a lithp)
RAZD writes:
Partly correct: ...
I'm not sure why you are making a reply to my post. It seems that your "reply" is entirely a response to the bullshit that Straggler has made up and has attempted to falsely impute to me.

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Message 38 of 207 (634770)
09-23-2011 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Percy
09-23-2011 1:52 PM


Percy writes:
You're misinterpreting what Nwr is referring to when he says science transforms supposed supernatural phenomena into natural phenomena. He's not referring to Thor.
Quite right.
I was just referring to the recategorization as natural of phenomena and events that had previously been considered supernatural.

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Message 40 of 207 (634776)
09-23-2011 9:26 PM
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09-23-2011 6:00 PM


Re: Allies
Straggler writes:
More generally Nwr has described science as some sort of internally consistent human construct that is unrelated to any knowledge about nature at all
Total bullshit.
There is something called The Principle of Charity, which one is supposed to follow. You seem to instead follow a principle of uncharity, which is why I ignore most of your posts even when the topic is of interest.

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