Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
2 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 368/286 Day: 11/13 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Intelligent Design is NOT Creation[ism]
jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 40 of 189 (143203)
09-19-2004 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by ID man
09-19-2004 1:21 PM


If there was ever any doubt
that ID was simply creationism and pretty silly to boot, that post should resolve it for ever. LOL
ID Man said he would produce evidence yet the best he could come up with is assertion and opinion.
He said, "No matter how YOU try to spin it ID is based on observation. Observations like the following:"
and then went on to provide...
I study the Bible daily'... Sir Isaac Newton from Isaac Newton -- Inventor, Scientist and Teacher.
‘The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator’...Louis Pasteur from Louis PasteurFounder of Modern Medicine.
and a bunch of other creationist nonsense.
He totally ingnores that we have learned a lot since those good folk were around and that it's likely that were they alive today they would be staunch evolutionists.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This message is a reply to:
 Message 38 by ID man, posted 09-19-2004 1:21 PM ID man has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 43 by ID man, posted 09-19-2004 2:13 PM jar has not replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 103 of 189 (145054)
09-27-2004 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by ID man
09-27-2004 12:34 PM


Re: Percy Wrong, Joe Meert says he's a Theistic Evolutionist
I haven't asked Joe or Ken but every other alleged christian evolutionist I have discussed this with tells me that humans were the intent of God. That would mean random had no part in bringing forth humans.
Well here is one Christian Evolutionist that will tell you that there is no indication that humans were the intent of GOD. To believe that humans were a goal makes GOD out to be a very illogical and insecure critter.
If humans were the goal, why would GOD have created a universe that took 14+ billion years to get to something that could have been there at day one. It assumes that all life that came before humans was simply wasted effort and non-productive nonsense.
The idea that there is something unusal or even exceptional about humans is a very human centric idea. It is making GOD in our own image.
Pretty silly.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This message is a reply to:
 Message 97 by ID man, posted 09-27-2004 12:34 PM ID man has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 107 by ID man, posted 09-27-2004 1:05 PM jar has replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 117 of 189 (145077)
09-27-2004 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by ID man
09-27-2004 1:05 PM


what is it about you creationists???????
I seriously doubt your alleged christianity. Why would you worship a liar and deciever? That is what the christian God would be if the theory of evolution equaled reality.
First, you are free to doubt my Christianity.
Second, I do not worship the Bible, it is but a book written by men. However, the universe around us and the life that is shown by evolution is a record written by GOD directly.
Third, neither I or any major Christian denomination have any problems with either the reality of Evolution or the TOE. That is why just about every major denomination has come out in support of teaching Evolution and the TOE and in opposition to creationism. I will be happy to provided evidence in support of this assertion.
Finally, your post removes any doubt or question that you are, and ID is, simply creationism lite.
Not at all. The other organisms provide humans with something to observe, study and learn by. Also they provide food, and some change CO2 to O2.
Nice try but it simply supports my contention. Are you saying that the only reason for the existence of the dinosaurs, of the Cambrian and pre-cambrian lifeforms was to give humans something to study?
Reality says we are exceptional. Do you see other organisms doing what we do with technology?
Again, simply a human-centric assertion. Do you think a beaver would appreciate a highrise more than his den? Do you think a gorilla would be in awe of our preoccupation with reality tv? Do you think grass lives in fear of our mowers?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This message is a reply to:
 Message 107 by ID man, posted 09-27-2004 1:05 PM ID man has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 118 by Ooook!, posted 09-27-2004 1:36 PM jar has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024