God and the blind Tailors

Milligan college is not a Bible seminary; Milligan is primarily a 4 year Christian liberal arts college with a few graduate programs (MBA and a MEd but no theology graduate degrees). There is a seminary across the street called Emmanual School of Religion which is loosely associated w/ Milligan but is not financially or academically tied to it. Besides you specifically stated writing the Dean of Milligan College NOT Emmanual School of Religion. That is not an oversight, that is an outright lie.I am skeptical you went to either school.You see. I did attend Milligan in 1992 (and my father attended Emmanual). So which year did you suposedly attend and what degree did you get? And yes I know your name since it is plastered all over other forums on the internet, but I will not disclose it here.BTW, I do have access through Milligan to contact previous alumni.OR would you like to retract your statement?BTW it would be libel (written) not slander (verbal) as shown here: Can you prove that my suspicion of your credibility constitutes libel? If not than stick it.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

I guess we scared off another fraud.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

So I take that as a: Yes, I lied about attending Milligan College and earning a Graduate Degree in Theology from there.Why do I keep bringing this up? Because I detest dishonest people who have to lie even about there own credentials in order for them to try to persuade people to there cause and propagate there message. Why should we care? Because if you lie about yourself why should we trust anything else you say here and further deceive unsuspecting posters.And why bring up the Nazi's and the KKK???? Your martyr complex is pitiful and typical of people, religious or not (we have called out both on this forum) who have something to hide.Your attempt to shift the focus off of your dishonesty and onto anyone who is calling you out is weak. Am I beating down your door and dragging you into the street with a Lugar? You have no freaking clue what the Jews and other people that the Nazi's called 'misfits' had to go through during the Holocaust. You come no where close to the beatings, rapes, torture and brutal massacring they had to go through. So stop with your martyr complex and just own up to being wrong and lying about it!I know I have probably raised the ire of the moderators for taking this thread off-track but there is a point where we have to say enough is enough and not allow purposeful deception to continue unchecked.I am not calling on you being banned here. And I never have. That is not my job anyways. Rather I further encourage you to post here, as I have, to learn from others and stop being so hypocritical and dogmatic.In this respect I am asking that the moderators possibly transfer this to another thread to discuss. I think this would be a wonderful topic to discuss. However, my suspicions are that RCH will perceive this as an attempt to further discredit him. That is not my attempt. I hope you will use this as a learning experience (for me as well) to explore the limits of your knowledge and broaden them. Believe me I too have had to eat a lot of humble pie here as well as elsewhere in my life adventure. And you wonder why we are rolling our eyes at you? Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to one's self-esteem. That is why young children, before they are aware of their own self-importance, learn so easily. ~Thomas Szasz

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

I would quote his list of "missions" from other forums but I do not want to further propogate his cause. However if you do an search on google using the email address found on his profile it is not that hard to figure out what he is doing i.e trying to get internet real estate and popularity to further his religious racketeer. Neither Milligan College (which is where he claimed to get his degree) or Emmanual School of Religion across the street, provides a MA in Theology degree. This is what the good rev says about his church: also and The above highlight is a real gem which discloses the religious fundamental movement's real purpose behind the ID movement.Almost every post on the internet where I see his name (in several dozen different forums) he mentions the above even when it makes no connection with the topic at hand. It is pure religious SPAM and free advertising and donations for his supposed religious "ministries".BTW, RCH IF you do honestly run a soup kitchen or the like I applaud you and in no way discourage this type of humanitarian activity. However, that does not give you the right to propogate dishonest credentials and the like to further your religious cause.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

I actually just got access to the Milligan College alumni database this morning and confirmed my suspician that the good 'Reverand Cross Hugger' never attended the school.LOL, I just noticed the # of posts I have under my belt to the left. I am sure all the Christians will take notice! Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

Did I ever reveal your real name or even your pseudname you claim to use? No.All I did is call you out on your claim that you attended a college that I myself happened to have attended. How would I send you anything if you do not disclose your real name/address? Besides you would be nuts to think that I would disclose any information about myself to a complete stranger on the internet. Ditto. And what are you going to tell the dean? That someone who's name you do not know challenged you online about your credentials to the college? Good luck. Have fun with that. What action? On what grounds? Again slander is an oral statement, you mean libel. Like lunx2no stated slander/libel is a civil offense not a criminal one. The only thing you can try to do is sue me. But then you would have to prove in a court of law that what I said (calling into question your credentials and claim to attending a college) was untruthful and caused injury.Good luck.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan