Gay marraige and the end of the world

To a degree every one is .... We all have hidden prejudices that we do not see, because of our prejudices eh? I've run into a couple of mine over the years. Why? What make one person significantly different from another due to sex when there can be even wider range differences in beliefs, behavior, temperment, ability, etc within each sex than exists as a measurable difference between them. Is there more genetic difference between sexes than within either sexual group? Whoever was the father before the divorce? False dichotomy, eh? Let's cut to the chase here.If there is no real {reason\desire\basis} to restrict the legal ramifications of marriage from gay unions, then the only thing that is being restricted is the definition of the word so that it has a basically religious meaning.If that is the case (and if this definition is put into place), then there is no possible justification for having any law refer to "marriage" (it would then violate separation of church and state guidelines, as well as coming fully into anti-discrimination restrictions on laws) and thus laws would have to be {re-written\modified\discarded} to strike "marriage" and replace it with "civil union" in all cases.Personally I think this is a perfectly valid way to go, as many of these laws are archaic in the extreme, biased towards "biology" over ability, care and effort (particularly in child care cases), bizarre in treatment of some people versus others in things from tax to schools to employment benefits to health treatment.With this position the statement "we are married" then does becomes just like "we are lutheran" or "we are protestant" ...And this could end up being a "careful what you wish for" proposition for fundies, particularly if they lose certain legal biases in favor of married folks.Just my thoughts, enjoy.

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Interesting case, but doesn't answer who was the father before the divorce, which is what my question was about - obviously if there is no father before then there is no father after and not having one is not a big surprise eh?The other thing I note about this case is that it is very much just the kind of twisted legal limbo biology biased anachronistic stuff as I noted that the laws are full of ("especially when dealing with child care issues") when based on the "traditional" marriage concept, and why "marriage" should be removed from laws altogether and left as a social custom.I understand where you are coming from, and just note that I am inclined in this direction too, but for a different reason. It may also easily end up weakening the "institution" in the end.joke: massachusetts legalized gay marriage so that their divorce rate will increase to match the rest of the nation ....Enjoy.

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But it does not necessarily involve biological mating of the married pair to produce a family with children. Single parent families, blended families and families with adopted children do not have (only) biolgical product of a married couple, but still have the same need for protection of the relationships for those children as well.I think we need to break down all the aspects involved in the concept of marriage to see what needs protection.To me the "traditional" aspects involve:

• license to have socially sanctioned sexual intercourse
• license to have a family
• license to share assets, benefits, resources, and decisions

Such that no one questions your "right" to these {actions\behaviors\etc} if you are married.Whether you call it marriage or a partnership contract for gay couples, the intent of it is to provide the same legal aspects for each of these categories.Anything less would be discrimination eh?

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