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mikehager
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Message 6 of 257 (202615)
04-26-2005 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Tal
04-26-2005 12:22 PM


Nonsense?
The rest of your post is nonsense.
That's quick and easy, isn't it? Lovely neocon kneejerk reaction. Dismiss criticism and try to make it seem foolish.
Well, the judicial system did just sit by and watched a handicapped citizen be starved to death.
That person had clearly (by every judical finding of fact) not wanted maintenance should her condition become what it did. So, the "conservatives" used her as a publicity ploy, the anti-abortion lobby cynically jumped on the bandwagon not because they cared one whit about the desires of Terry Shiavo (back when she could have them) but because they thought the spillover might help their agenda. When the courts didn't give the conservatives what they wanted, they did an end run around the separation of powers (where was the concern for local government and states rights there?) and when they still didn't get what they wanted, they publicly considered investigating the judges.
The assinine neocon "concern" for Tery Shiavo sickens me. It is naked political self interest and transparent manipulation. That anyone could fall for it is laughable. Bush and his servitors in congress cared for that family? Bull.
Any reasonable person who forms their own ideas and doesn't get their opinions from neocon propoganda knew the right thing to do was follow Terry Shiavo and her next-of-kin's wishes.
What exactly does following the express wishes of an adult have to do with human rights?
Tal, you have drunk the kool-aid.
How would you compare the US military to the other countries you listed?
I got no problem with the men and women in the ranks of the military. They're doing a job and following orders. The command structure that creates secret prisons in blatant disregard of treaties we are signatory to. Read the Geneva Convention and the terms it sets for prisoners of war and non aligned combatants. Here's the short form... we are obligated to either treat those captured as POW's or turn them over to a duly constituted legal system, either that of America's or of their country of origin. None of this has been done for the "detainees".

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