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jar
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Message 9 of 97 (184293)
02-09-2005 11:52 PM
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02-09-2005 11:46 PM


Re: plurality
Well, first off neither of what you call pictures really are pictures. They are both artistic renderings.
Second the link to NG is simply the report that Daniel McGivern was planning an expedition which never happened anyway.
So so far you've provided no support.

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Message 12 of 97 (184298)
02-10-2005 12:05 AM
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02-10-2005 12:00 AM


Re: plurality
There are a whole herd of Arks that have been found. LOL

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Message 32 of 97 (196752)
04-04-2005 8:26 PM
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04-04-2005 8:20 PM


Re: Noah's Ark
If that's the one (of the many, many sites claiming to be Noah's Ark) then I don't see where you have any evidence.
In your link you certainly haven't provided anything that even resembles more than a rock outcrop.

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jar
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Message 34 of 97 (196757)
04-04-2005 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Chiroptera
04-04-2005 8:31 PM


Re: Why is it that no non-admin members...
I believe there are several steps needed before the issue of a flood even broached the surface.
First there would need to be some evidence that a large wooden structure existed on one of the Mountains of Ararat (where ever they may be).
Next, there would have to be evidence that the structure was actually a boat and not some other type structure.
If it can be shown to be a boat then it would need to be shown that it was a cattle barge.
Then it would need to be dated.
Once dated, it would be necessary to show that there is no more reasonable explanation for it's location.
Then, and only then, might the issue of whether or not it is Noah's Ark be considered.
But even if it passed all of the above, it would not be evidence of a Global Flood. That simply never happened.
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Message 49 of 97 (196977)
04-05-2005 3:42 PM
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04-05-2005 12:45 PM


Re: Noah's Ark
IF a large ancient wooden structure matching the biblical description were discovered high up on a treeless mountain, what other explanation could there be for it?
Literally millions. Maybe it was a barn, a shelter, a place of worship, a cat house, a bingo parlor. All would be more reasonable.
It's interesting that some wouldn't accept any evidence of an ark even it it floated by them because of their pre-disposition against the idea of a world-wide flood.
The discussion of the flood myth is totally off topic for this thread, yet again. If you want to talk about the Great Unwetting, take it to one of the threads where that myth is discussed.

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Message 56 of 97 (197016)
04-05-2005 5:35 PM
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04-05-2005 4:38 PM


Anybodies Ark.
Well, let's wait and see if anyone ever finds any evidence that there ever was wooden structure high on some mountain. Once we find something, anything, then it's time to begin analyzing what we've found. But so far there is less evidence for the existence of an Ark then for the Yeti.

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jar
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Message 58 of 97 (197042)
04-05-2005 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Chiroptera
04-05-2005 6:10 PM


Re: Not a bad question.
Well, let me address what I might see as evidence that there was once an Ark.
First, if we found some type of a wooden structure at altitude on some mountain somewhere in the world.
Next, if that structure displayed some of the characteristics of a sea going object. For example, if we found that a portion of the lower structure showed signs of marine borers and there was a clear demarcation line that might imply a water line that would help.
If in addition we found the the structure was designed with support for the lower structure instead of the upper structure, that it was designed to maintain integrity while part of the base was removed, it would add weight.
If then we found interior structures that were designed to segregate critters yet enhance feeding and cleaning up after them we'd add slightly more weight.
If the vast majority of interior structures were too small for human use it would add a little more weight.
If the structure also showed design to be a self contained unit where supplies could be stored, living quarters for the humans, vast containers for fresh water, an efficient waste disposal system (which would have been a fulltime job) we might add a smidgin more credibility.
If we find that all entrances to the structure were about halfway between the top and bottom or even higher with no openings lower than the water line as evidenced by borer damage, then add another little bit.
If we then found evidence, hair, skin, crap or other evidence, of a variety of critters being in the structure for a year or more (they had to be stored somewhere during the days leading up to launch) we add a little more credibilty.
BUT!!!!!!!!!
That still does not connect it with Noah or a world-wide flood.

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