reliability of eye-witness accounts

this is from the other thread you didn't reply to.Can you (personally) tell when to trust your eyes and when not to?
Can you cite an example in life of when you didn't trust your own eyes?This message has been edited by chris porcelain, 02-28-2005 17:10 AM

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-one word to describe me, spectacular yes

I'm afraid you're missing the point. It doesn't seem like a good way to exist if you can't trust what you see.edit:typoThis message has been edited by chris porcelain, 02-28-2005 18:00 AM

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You're holding some animosity towards me?Usually at this board I don't get insults because of differing opinions. I won't stoop down to your level bro but I can't say it's not tempting.See when you live life you form beliefs from experiences you have, now being uncertain of experiences can really affect your beliefs.There are two people:One thinks everything happens for a reason
The other thinks everyone is coincidenceI am certain of the things that have happened to me, I wouldn't get hung up on life if you can't remember everything. I believe the things you do remember is all you need. And uncertainty towards the makeup of your being can be tragic. peaceThis message has been edited by chris porcelain, 02-28-2005 19:50 AM

I'm saying the stuff you do remember is what matters.In shaping who you've become there have been landmarks in your life. Remebering the details needed for those landmarks is all you need.

Yeah, I really think it's beautiful were not perfect and I enjoyed how you described this.I think there has been a misinterpretation from those that have responded to me. But that's alright.

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Funny, I thought you were arguing that we should trust our eyes

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That's what I as talking about. Isn't it the same thing?

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consider something a "landmark" in your life, it is quite likely that you may amplify the details of that memory since you've accepted it as life-altering.

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You do realize this is a thread on the accuracy of eye-witness testimony?

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Shouldn't you feel secure in what you have seen and know?

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Oh great, you just turned a conversation about memory into evolution/creation debate. See why I don't have much respect for you?

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Uh, that comment has nothing to do with evolution or creation. I have no respect for you. You don't know what you are talking about :/

Whether I remember wrong or not it doesn't matter. We as humans form opinions on what we feel we remember correctly.

hehe I just realized who you are Lam. I thought you were someone who just likes being rude. But I guess you have your reasons.

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"We should trust our eyes" is quite a different argument than "the stuff you do remember is what matters".

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You've seen what you remember right? I don't see a difference.

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Not 100% secure, no. Having that kind of attitude could send the wrong person to the electric chair. All memory is falliable, yours included. What you believe to have genuinely occurred may not have occurred at all. You are not immune to this phenomenon just because you want to be.

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Of course and that's alright. I never said I wanted to be. Do you not recognize when things you remember might not have happened? And I know you don't but sometimes you do and memories that are questionable are usually trivial.I believe the specific imprint you recieve from something is what matters, like if you have a dream and it shows you to turn your life around(happened last night) the fact that it really happened or that you really saw it does that matter? I guess that illustrates what I'm trying to say a little more clearly.I believe God instills certain memories in your mind to help guide you along. That a certain impression you recieve is meant, not just a coincidence.

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Do you honestly feel that every single memory you have is 100% accurate?

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As I've said before on this thread, no. Do you think I think I'm God or something?

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-one word to describe me, spectacular yes

Yeah

I don't need the Bible. All I need is my life

I think what is important is the perception you maintain, not the accuracy or even sometimes the reality of the perceptin you've come to have

When I was saying "what you see", I was meanig your perception. Sometimes I can't articulate how I'm thinking or why I would resppond to object.sorryRemembering something correctly to a person does not have to agree with reality.From what I just said, no not really.I don't think I directly stated your question in answer form. Well that wasn't my intention, we can't be on the same way of thought.

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-one word to describe me, spectacular yes

Well thats not what I really meant but since I asked that question exactly how you answered it it's my fault.I kind of meant any typeof miraculous happenings or in some way you doubted what you believe because of a memory you had which you were doubting.