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inkorrekt
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Message 89 of 151 (337089)
07-31-2006 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Trump won
07-28-2006 9:17 AM


Two ways to look at it
1) Human life has no value if we assume that our lives evolved from a single cellular organism through random chance and mutation. We are here just because we arrived here.We will die oneday and disappear.
2) We were made for a purpose. In order to fulfil this purpose, everything was put in proper place and time so that we were made to accomplish that purpose. In this case our lives have value. Chemical analysis of human body shows that the total value in terms of chemicals is less than $5.00. Is this our value? No. It is lot more beyond. Who we are has more value than our titles, possessions and positions. Our intrinsic value is intangible. There is no price on this.

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inkorrekt
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Message 94 of 151 (337555)
08-02-2006 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by ringo
07-31-2006 10:44 PM


Re: Two ways to look at it
On the other hand, if we came about becuse of some marvelous chance, we truly are one in a million million million million
This cannot happen.Why? If some one asked me where did I come from, my answer will be,"From my mother's womb". How did this happen? My parents were together. Still how? one sperm out of more than 1 million sperms fertilized one egg. This is a statistical improbability. For me to be conceived, it had to be THAT specific sperm and THAT specific egg which must fertilize. If it had been different eggs/ sperms, it would not be me. It would be somebody else. Chance does not produce specific Characteristics. It can only happen if someone took one sperm and fertilized with one egg.
Edited by inkorrekt, : spelling errors

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inkorrekt
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Message 96 of 151 (337952)
08-04-2006 4:48 PM
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08-02-2006 11:11 PM


Re: Two ways to look at it
Hence, the more rare and valuable we are.
This seems to be a twisted logic

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inkorrekt
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Message 135 of 151 (339881)
08-13-2006 8:54 PM
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08-04-2006 6:10 PM


Re: Two ways to look at it
Why should chance result in human beings? Chance can bring about anything. Chance means, there is no reason and purpose for our existence. Science does not prove chance.

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inkorrekt
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Message 148 of 151 (345561)
08-31-2006 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by inkorrekt
08-13-2006 8:54 PM


Re: Two ways to look at it
We are all or most of us are addicted to football. What do they do before the game? They toss the coin. Can anyone predict who will start the game?

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inkorrekt
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Message 149 of 151 (346313)
09-03-2006 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Phat
08-15-2006 10:50 AM


Re: Two ways to look at it
There is a vacuum in all our lives. Money, name, fame, sex, possessions, positions and you name anything. None of them will satisfy the soul. Things will give us some happiness for a while. Then we need more and more things. It is A never ending QUEST. Good works also cannot satisfy our soul.They may make us feel good. There is only one which can satisfy the human soul. That is God.

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inkorrekt
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Message 150 of 151 (347440)
09-07-2006 11:35 PM
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08-14-2006 2:06 AM


Re: Two ways to look at it
Our intrinsic value depends on who we are rather than what we have. there is no price on human life.
Chance means it can produce anything (if at all anything should happen). Chance again depends on what is possible and what is not possible. If chance should create anything, then it must defy the laws of chemistry, physics and biology. Chemical evolution is impossible. Therefore chance cannot produce anything as far as life processes are concerned.

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inkorrekt
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Message 151 of 151 (353307)
09-30-2006 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Brian
07-28-2006 8:38 AM


value of human life
Murdering over 300 innocent civilians because a terrorist group has kidnapped 2 soldiers is an appalling disregard for human life
What is the value of human life? Is it in terms of the material content? In terms of materail value, a full grown adult will not be even worth $5.00. Any comparison made with an example of what is going on in the middle east is faulty. Why? Isrealis do not strap bombs and commit suicide in crowded places killing innocent people? Since the establishment of the state of Israel,60 years ago, jews have been brutally murdered for no reason. They are the most hated of all nations. Why?
On the other hand, the Hezbollahs were using innocent civilians as human shields in order to perpetrate their heinous deeds.In this battle, if 300 innocent civilians were killed, Israel must never be blamed. It is the Hezbollah who are responsible.
REvenge for 2 kidnapped soldiers: If you were the head of state of Israel, what would you do if there is constant violence in your state by the suicide bombers? Your enemy has already threatened that he will wipe out the state of Israel. You had constructed a wall only to protect your citizens. In spite of all your efforts to protect your citizens, if the enemy kidnapps your soldiers, what would you do?

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