Christianity is Morally Bankrupt

I really like your comment, it seems quite honest and forthright - but can u share your faith? The bible specifically says that one should be able to explain the reason for the hope they have to others, I'm always interested to learn more and if indeed ur god is alive and well perhaps u can illustrate that to me

I may be over my head on this one - I'm gonna have to meditate on this and present my argument with much better wording.
I'm kinda new to debating these topics so you'll have to forgive if I'm coming off as something of an beginner

At the very lest I can back up my "thought crime" stance, I can't qoute the chapter or verse but as far as I'm aware I believe the bible says"if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart"Adultery is a sin so I believe that would qualify as a thought crime statement - although as
I said I can't qoute chapter and verse so I am possibly wrong on this phrasing (although the likes of Ray Comfort are big on this point)Edit : re "opting out"Again as far as I'm aware by not accepting Jesus as savior etc I am destined for hell, although I have renounced my previous faith apparently I will face judgement for simply being an atheist (as do Pagans, Buddists, etc) - this is an immoral proposition, I asked for no part in this system and yet I'll be judged on it? That is unfairEdited by GrimSqueaker, : No reason given.Edited by GrimSqueaker, : No reason given.

This reply is to both Nonukes and PurpledawnGod is a construct of those who choose to believe and interpet - hence it is illogical and kinda a cop out to say "don't blame the Christians it's god that decides this", even if he is real Christians decide to go along with it which at the very least makes them an assersory to his monstrosity - although Id be happy to tweak the title of this thread if it is causing issue, would "God is a soulless monster" be preferrable?I should mention I am not afraid of God in the slightest, Christians do occasionally give me pause for thought though. Where I am using "I" and "me" to illustrate a point I am merely illustrating a point. Hell even if you could prove to me the bible/god/Jesus were all 100% real I've read to much of the bible to worship such a creature and would still have the same stance of moral superiority

Ever ge the feeling you've bitten off more than you can chew?

Ok - I've taken little time to think and hopefully I can clear up this topic slightly.There is some dispute about terms, I keep referncing god and others are saying Christians - the topic is Christianity, Christianity is a system of belief and it is this system I am calling into question. I have no doubt that Christians can be good people, but to qoute Steven Weinberg

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.It is my hypothosis, one that I would like to debate, that Christianiy although it indeed has some tenants that are moral - but it's net worth of morality is in deficit, as it holds many beliefs and rules which are questionable at best, through immoral to perhaps down right evil.I really hope this is a bit clearer now.......

Hmmmmm u make a very valid pointCan anyone suggest, in the spirit of developing a community member who wishes to contribute to intelligent discussion, a way to make any statement that would apply to Christanity as a group? Surely there must be something they all agree on (which I can subsequently attack lol)

I'm very dyslexic and autocorrect can only help so much I'm afraid

I thought I had presented arguments, but perhaps I'm casting my net too wide - could u perhaps suggest a single point I may have mentioned that I could elaborate upon for you and we can discuss that before moving on to the next one

Hold on a second you r twisting words there - regarding the thought crimes response, I think the supposition and a system by which thoughts should be something that people should be punished for is immoral (even if the system is fabricated it's affects can be real)Everyones mind is there own place and nothing should be beyond imagination and indeed vocalisation and discussionImplicated punishment for thoughts is wrong

I've added a kicker to my original post- I'm gone repeat it here to save people clicking back or perhaps missing it entirely"For the sake of clarity I'm gonna add the kicker that I am only currently finding issue with Christian doctorians which believe the above - it has been abundantly pointed out to me that not all Christians hold all of these beliefs, if a Christian does hold any or all of these beliefs please join the debate - conversly if a Christian holds none of these beliefs as true please join anyway but be aware I'm not currently taking you to task on your beliefs as I clearly have no idea what you believe. But by all means let's me know what you do believe and I'd be happy to debate that, or better yet get your opinion on the above practices as I'm sure we have some common groud on our disapproval of some issues"

"I accept that the sun is going to become a red giant and will likely incinerate the entire inner solar system. Before that, the sun's aging will have erased all terrestrial life. I claim that those are the consequences for even those who worship Apollo and believe he will prevent such things. I don't accept that my belief in such a horrible thing is morally bankrupt."To suppose that it is an inevitable out come of cosmology is not immoralTo suggest that it is due to human sin and is a Devine punishment is immoral - for starters its blatently dishonest and falls into numerous other theological traps, universal punishment of all the solar system and genocidal tendencies for one

I wasn't aware Moral Bankruptsy had a definition - cool, I love learning new stuff.But I never said "A Christian" - ice explicted stated I was referring to the system Christanity and not Christians themselves

I'll address these issue, not ignoring you dude just a little busy - and as I just mentioned I didn't realise that Moral Bankruptsy was a coined term, I meant something a bit different

Do Christians not think God wrote them?I still think the premises behind the doctrines are "evil" (for lack of a better word) even if they are impotent of supernatural power