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sidelined
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Message 14 of 106 (68886)
11-23-2003 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by White Robes
11-23-2003 10:58 PM


White Robes
Please explain to me how Jesus dying on the cross is supposed to take our punishment for us unless he spends an equivalent amount of time in hell himself. I mean it is one thing to die on a cross,horrible though must be, it is hardly more than one day of pain and then He is off to heaven.So that is all He had to suffer to balance the scales for all the sins of the people that believe in him? Pardon my being blunt but human beings have suffered greater pain than that just in the living out of their lives.
Now if He were to spend an equivalent amount of time in hell to that which he spares the believers of.ten some of the spiritual stuff would make sense as it could be a test by God to see if we would be willing to allow another to take our punishment for us.If we chose not to allow Christ to take our place that would strike me as a far greater testimony to the character of a person.Those who would have him take their place would be rejected since they obviously are not mature enough to understand that they should be responsible for their own actions and take their punishment.
Anyway it is just a thought for the believers out there to contemplate.
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"Physics is like sex. Sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it."

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Message 20 of 106 (69503)
11-26-2003 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Zealot
11-25-2003 7:41 AM


Zealot
"Find me a man that does not sin."
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Would Lot qualify?

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Message 28 of 106 (69974)
11-29-2003 9:57 PM


I wonder if I could re-ask a question that I brought up elsewhere. The story of christ goes this way.he dies for our sins on the cross.Exactly what does this mean? Does he take the sin upon himself and somehow serve your time in hell for you? Does the bible state specifically what happens to Jesus that repays all the sins of rape,murder,torture,adultery,incest,etc.?

  
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Message 29 of 106 (69975)
11-29-2003 9:58 PM


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