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Message 2 of 60 (456496)
02-18-2008 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by ICANT
02-18-2008 10:10 AM


Hi ICANT,
I'm going to take a brief moment to explain the painfully obvious to you. If you don't get it then I don't think you're ever going to get it.
ICANT writes:
It is preached on this site there is only one type of evolution.
No it isn't. You can even go to the [forum=-2] forum and find discussions of stellar evolution. Just type "stellar evolution" (including the quotes) into the search box for that forum.
Evolution, like most words in the English language, has more than one definition. Subbie explained precisely which one he meant when he asked how creationists define evolution. If you want to ask how people define other meanings of evolution then propose a thread.
I will be presenting evidence to affirm that everything from singularity to present day is evolution and is taught as such.
Did you take physics in high school, or did they at least teach physics at your high school? If so, did they call it physics or evolution?
In college I took an astronomy course, which included cosmology and the Big Bang. They called the course astronomy, not evolution, and they called the cosmology section cosmology, not evolution.
If you joined a discussion board about the sport of running, would you insist that running had to include running for political office, running a company, and machinery that is in operation? Of course not. So why are you insisting that threads about biological evolution have to include other definitions of evolution?
I'll promote this thread if you really want because I'm sure some useful clarifications and explanations will be contributed, but this is all really very simple and shouldn't need to be explained.

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Message 4 of 60 (456506)
02-18-2008 12:19 PM
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02-18-2008 11:52 AM


Re: Re-Simple
ICANT writes:
As to where you can put it that you won't be giving all of us time outs I have no idea.
Your problems are caused by going persistently off-topic and failing to follow moderator requests. This topic is for discussing what you were trying to discuss in the What is evolution? thread, where it was off-topic. So unless you're planning to go off-topic in your own thread there should be no problems.

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Message 5 of 60 (456509)
02-18-2008 12:19 PM


Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

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Message 29 of 60 (456624)
02-19-2008 8:46 AM


General Comments about Terminology
As has already been mentioned in this thread, it can almost always be argued that things could have better names than the ones they actually have. Whether words and phrases like evolution, biological evolution, and theory of evolution are the best terms, they're the ones in use, they have clear and unambiguous definitions, and so they're the ones we're going to use.
Also, it is the common practice in almost all discussion, both oral and written, to shorten terms once the context is clear. For example, once it has been established you're talking about the United States of America, you only say America from then on. In the same way, once it is clear you're talking about biological evolution, you'll only say evolution from then on. The need for shorter terms to speed communication is the whole reason why words like "this" and "that" exist. Demanding that people not shorten when it is done everywhere by everyone all the time is ridiculous, and board administration will not support this.
Lastly, realize that while confusion based upon the use of abbreviated terminology and synonyms is something that should be very easily resolved, that it hasn't so far hints at something more fundamental than mere issues of terminology.

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Message 52 of 60 (457828)
02-25-2008 6:12 PM
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02-25-2008 4:54 PM


Topic Reminder
Please stay on topic, which doesn't happen to be materialism. You can propose new topics over at [forum=-25]. Thanks!

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Message 56 of 60 (457903)
02-26-2008 8:58 AM
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02-25-2008 11:49 PM


Re: Theism is not the only alternative to materialism
Hopefully Bertvan has seen Message 52 and won't reply.

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