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ICANT
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Message 1 of 5 (456485)
02-18-2008 10:10 AM


In http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution? I was ask for and I gave my opinion on the ToE.
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My definition: http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution?
The Theory of Evolution is a change over time where all living things came from a pea sized universe that expanded into what we see and what we do not see today. The Big Band Theory tries to explain what happened in the material universe from T=O+ until present. The Theory of Abiogenesis tries to explain how life came into being on a lifeless planet. Once this life appeared the Theory of Biogenesis tries to explain how all living lifeforms extinct and living today came from this first or many life cells.
It seems 2 people realized where I was coming from with my definition.
http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution?
RAZD writes:
This is the "kitchen sink" conflation of every possible meaning of evolution. I'll make no other comments at this time, other than note the OP request:
http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution?
Granny Magda writes:
ICANT,
I think that part of the problem here is that you are talking about evolution in a more general sense of the word,
It is preached on this site there is only one type of evolution.
If you disagree please check: http://EvC Forum: What is evolution? -->EvC Forum: What is evolution?.
The reason this is a fact is because a part of biogenesis, biological evolution can be proven and some of the processes have been agreed to by creationist. Myself included.
In this topic I would like to discuss:
Why is it that makes no difference how a question is worded if it includes the word evolution it can only mean biological evolution?
Why the process from singularity until today is not evolution Or why it is evolution?
Why abiogenesis is not evolution or why it is evolution?
In http://EvC Forum: Evolution by Definition -->EvC Forum: Evolution by Definition Phat asked:
Phat writes:
Does evolution have a narrow definition or a broad definition?
For this topic I would like to take the Definition of evolution given by Catholic Scientist here:
http://EvC Forum: Evolution by Definition -->EvC Forum: Evolution by Definition
quote:
In the vaguest sense, evolution is just change over time.
I will be presenting evidence to affirm that everything from singularity to present day is evolution and is taught as such.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 2 of 5 (456497)
02-18-2008 11:04 AM
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02-18-2008 10:10 AM


Hi ICANT,
I'm going to take a brief moment to explain the painfully obvious to you. If you don't get it then I don't think you're ever going to get it.
ICANT writes:
It is preached on this site there is only one type of evolution.
No it isn't. You can even go to the [forum=-2] forum and find discussions of stellar evolution. Just type "stellar evolution" (including the quotes) into the search box for that forum.
Evolution, like most words in the English language, has more than one definition. Subbie explained precisely which one he meant when he asked how creationists define evolution. If you want to ask how people define other meanings of evolution then propose a thread.
I will be presenting evidence to affirm that everything from singularity to present day is evolution and is taught as such.
Did you take physics in high school, or did they at least teach physics at your high school? If so, did they call it physics or evolution?
In college I took an astronomy course, which included cosmology and the Big Bang. They called the course astronomy, not evolution, and they called the cosmology section cosmology, not evolution.
If you joined a discussion board about the sport of running, would you insist that running had to include running for political office, running a company, and machinery that is in operation? Of course not. So why are you insisting that threads about biological evolution have to include other definitions of evolution?
I'll promote this thread if you really want because I'm sure some useful clarifications and explanations will be contributed, but this is all really very simple and shouldn't need to be explained.

--Percy
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ICANT
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Message 3 of 5 (456503)
02-18-2008 11:52 AM
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02-18-2008 11:04 AM


Re-Simple
Hi Admin,
Admin writes:
I'll promote this thread if you really want because I'm sure some useful clarifications and explanations will be contributed, but this is all really very simple and shouldn't need to be explained.
If it is so simple why is there so much controversy over the word evolution?
I would like to see the three questions I asked discussed.
As to where you can put it that you won't be giving all of us time outs I have no idea.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 4 of 5 (456507)
02-18-2008 12:19 PM
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02-18-2008 11:52 AM


Re: Re-Simple
ICANT writes:
As to where you can put it that you won't be giving all of us time outs I have no idea.
Your problems are caused by going persistently off-topic and failing to follow moderator requests. This topic is for discussing what you were trying to discuss in the What is evolution? thread, where it was off-topic. So unless you're planning to go off-topic in your own thread there should be no problems.

--Percy
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02-18-2008 12:19 PM


Thread copied to the Re-Theory of Evolution thread in the Biological Evolution forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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