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crashfrog
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Message 9 of 120 (431679)
11-01-2007 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 12:50 PM


Google could even be the new threat to our free will and self-determination.
You're right, of course, which is why all human civilization came to an end when they invented encyclopedias and people could just look stuff up in them.
Oh, wait. That's not what happened at all?

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crashfrog
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Message 14 of 120 (431690)
11-01-2007 2:50 PM
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11-01-2007 2:44 PM


Besides, didn't Diderot fuel a revolution when he wrote the Encyclopedia?
I don't recall it being a revolution that threated human free will, as you suggest.
You need to consult with older people more often.
I try but they're always yelling at me to turn off my devil music and get off their lawn.

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crashfrog
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Message 21 of 120 (431715)
11-01-2007 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 4:03 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Can you tell me, without consulting Lord Google Almighty, what you know about the Zuit Suit Riots
Just from memory of 8th-grade civics, without any verification via internet (as you request), and therefore extremely tentatively and almost certainly wrongly on many counts, the Zoot Suit Riots (I do remember that you've spelled it wrong) were a series of altercations between shore-leaved sailors and the local gangs, who dressed in striped, baggy suits called "Zoot suits", that arose amid the swing clubs of late 1950's San Francisco.
Or something. Some city in California, some sailors, some guys in funny suits with big hats, switchblades, and swing music is all I remember. I imagine a fair bit of that is conflated with Zoot Suit Riot, the first album from Cherry Poppin' Daddies, back in 1997. The above was an attempt to fill in the blanks with guessing. (I'm usually pretty good at that, or at least convincing.)

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 120 (431753)
11-01-2007 9:31 PM
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11-01-2007 7:08 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
But I think it took place in LA in the mid 40s.
After I answered I Wiki'd it, and you're right. LA, 1942. And it was sailors and soldiers vs. Mexican-american gangs, I had thought they were Italians for some reason.
Anyway I gave it the ol' college try, because you asked.
I equate it with the first wave of juvenile delinquency, which was setting into an incipient youth culture while all our fathers where away at war.
Ah, so you're the Silent Generation.

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crashfrog
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Message 30 of 120 (431754)
11-01-2007 9:32 PM
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11-01-2007 9:00 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
I don't understand what "pegged pants" are.

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crashfrog
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Message 36 of 120 (431786)
11-02-2007 1:02 AM
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11-02-2007 12:55 AM


You are so a robot
I AM NOT A ROBOT.
That's just what I'd expect a robot to say, robot.

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crashfrog
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Message 38 of 120 (431790)
11-02-2007 1:30 AM
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11-02-2007 1:05 AM


Re: You are so a robot

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crashfrog
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Message 90 of 120 (432112)
11-03-2007 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Wounded King
11-03-2007 2:29 PM


Re: Google and security cams”Big Brother now?
I'm sure you can if you actually know what you are talking about.
I'm not so sure about that. I've been on the stupid-looking end of remembering something confidently and wrong often enough that I think it's wise to google things (or, more often, wiki things) to prevent making serious unintentional boners.
I think it's more important to look up the things you think you know than the reverse, actually.

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crashfrog
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Message 114 of 120 (433354)
11-11-2007 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by ringo
11-11-2007 1:10 PM


Re: computers know?
Computer operation is iterational. Computer programming isn't.
Wait, what? Iterative programming was one of the earliest concepts we studied in Comp Sci I, right after recursion. Isn't your basic "for" loop an example of iterative programming?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by the term.

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crashfrog
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Message 118 of 120 (433410)
11-11-2007 8:55 PM
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11-11-2007 4:13 PM


Re: computers know?
I understood (or possibly misunderstood) Hoot Mon to suggest that the act of writing programs is iterative.
Unless I still don't understand what you mean by "iterative" - and this might very well be because I don't know much about educational theory - I think you could make an argument that writing a program was frequently iterative; generally you block out the general structure of a program, using placeholders for functions, then going back and filling in the blanks, then going back and debugging (repeat this last about 20 times), etc.
I don't mean to sandbag you with nit-picking, of course, I'm just trying to arrive at a sense of what you're saying.

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crashfrog
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Message 120 of 120 (433428)
11-11-2007 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by ringo
11-11-2007 10:32 PM


Re: computers know?
Fair enough. I guess the problem was an unfortunate choice of words; you inadvertently used a term that had a different meaning in computer science.
But, I kind of get the sense of what you're saying. Some learning is iterative, though; learning by rote, for instance. That's proved not to be especially instructive, though, which I think proves your point.

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