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Taz
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Message 2 of 308 (427003)
10-09-2007 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by macaroniandcheese
10-09-2007 10:54 AM


Can you, um, elaborate on what you are talking about? Obama is the reason why I may actually vote republican next year, but I still don't know what you are talking about.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 4 of 308 (427011)
10-09-2007 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by macaroniandcheese
10-09-2007 1:08 PM


bren writes:
it might help if you read the articles...
Yes, it might help if I read the articles. But I know it will definitely help if you spoon feed me
By the way, Percy seems to be refusing to change the picture of the month. We need something that will get his attention. Is the offer of your boobs still up?
Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 9 of 308 (427027)
10-09-2007 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Hyroglyphx
10-09-2007 2:10 PM


Re: Throwing away your vote
Nem writes:
Do you think that you will be throwing your vote away for a Democrat candidate who you will believe will end up losing?
I don't know if he will be losing or winning. But the fact that the democrats can't find someone better...

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Taz
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Message 16 of 308 (427081)
10-09-2007 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by crashfrog
10-09-2007 3:21 PM


Re: Throwing away your vote
crash writes:
Specifically, what's wrong with him that, in your view, neither Clinton nor Edwards are superior?
I'm sure all three are great candidates. I'm not looking to be reasonable here, but all three have made it clear that they don't care diddly squat about human rights, which I think are not negotiable. I've also been hearing a lot of "god bless" from all of them.
Like I said, curse me all you want. I'd rather vote for dumbest than negotiate on certain issues that shouldn't be negotiable.
Perhaps if you could specify your concerns in terms of their actual policies and character, as opposed to nebulous phrasings about who you "like" better, you might actually demonstrate sufficient engagement in the process to deserve to vote, just a thought.
Ok, you've changed my mine. I'm not going to vote next november.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 21 of 308 (427104)
10-09-2007 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by crashfrog
10-09-2007 7:09 PM


Re: Throwing away your vote
Haha, crash, you've convinced me. You have one less ignorant voter to worry about now.
Added by edit.
PS I stopped believing in democracy about this time last year.
Edited by Tazmanius Devilus, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 37 of 308 (427197)
10-10-2007 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by crashfrog
10-09-2007 11:28 PM


Re: Throwing away your vote
crash writes:
I would rather Taz make an effort to educate himself about the issues
Crash, I've been reading almost everyday about the candidates. I've been trying to catch and watch the live debates of both republicans and democrats. If you want me to outline what each candidate stands for specifically, I can't. What I can tell you is I've had it with the current candidates.
Actually, the only person I would vote for now is Howard Dean. Too bad he's not running...
And to both crash and nem_jug, Al Gore IS NOT running and has many times now declared his intention NOT to run. I honestly don't even know why you guys are even talking about it.
I'm not going to vote. Regarding to my bitching and moaning later on, let me give you an analogy.
I am presented with 2 bowls of shit. They want me to choose which bowl for dinner. I don't want either. The rest of the nation choose one out of the two for me. You're telling me I don't have a right to bitch and moan about the bowl of shit that's just been crammed down my throat?
But sorting through politics isn't everybody's cup of tea.
You're right. To me, very few issues are important. I'm not as political savy as I'm sure most of you are.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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Taz
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Message 45 of 308 (427765)
10-12-2007 7:52 PM


Al Gore won nobel peace prize
Scratch what I said before about him not running. There's a 1% chance he might actually run...
Go Al Gore!!!

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Taz
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Message 47 of 308 (427771)
10-12-2007 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by macaroniandcheese
10-12-2007 8:09 PM


Re: Al Gore won nobel peace prize
What part of 1% don't you understand? It was a joke. Some people have told me that Al Gore might run. I agree with them. There's a 1% chance of him running.

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Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 66 of 308 (436470)
11-26-2007 12:00 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Silent H
11-25-2007 11:22 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
Silent H writes:
Anyway, that sort of defies Buz's theory. I doubt an Islamic radical is going to be that pro-Israel. Then again maybe that's his cover, and he keeps dodging the question to avoid accidentally screeching death to Israel.
Well, it wouldn't surprise me if he is indeed trying to cover his Islamic radical root. After all, the gay republicans who got caught trying to get a bj at a public restrooms or having "sexual immoralities" with male prostitutes were always the ones that had the loudest voice against homosexuals.
But what do I know about Obama? All I know is I'm not voting this upcoming primary.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 72 of 308 (436555)
11-26-2007 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Silent H
11-26-2007 12:18 AM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
Would you vote for a monkey?
Ok, sorry... I'm not entirely sure I want someone who can't go on for a day without trying to tell the world he's a very religious man. I used to support him all the way. But recently, I have been watching democratic debates and have found myself not liking him anymore... or Hillary. If it comes to it, I'd rather vote for Fred Phelps. At least he's honest.

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 74 of 308 (436566)
11-26-2007 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by crashfrog
11-26-2007 1:50 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
I said I was sorry. Trust me, I would have said the same if it was Hillery or Fred Phelps or Kerry. Motivation behind that wasn't racist in nature.

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
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Message 76 of 308 (436569)
11-26-2007 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by crashfrog
11-26-2007 1:57 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
Well, monkey see monkey do. Does this monkey know why it is doing what it is seeing? It doesn't really care, you see. Just like these candidates.
Added by edit.
I'm sorry, I've just been depressed about the whole issue lately, from the Iraq war to health care to gay rights and everything in between. Just ignore me.
Added by edit again.
The monkey thing was partly a pathetic attempt at using Nem_Jug's logic.
During the civil rights era, there were white southerners who asked "would you let a monkey vote?" and then turn around and bluntly deny that they just compared black people to monkeys.
During the now era, Nem_Jug continually remarks rape and murder everytime the topic of gay sex comes up and then turns around and bluntly denies that he was comparing gay people to rapists and murderers.
If others can do it, why can't I?
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 78 of 308 (436577)
11-26-2007 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by crashfrog
11-26-2007 2:23 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
crashfrog writes:
Have you learned what Obama's stances on those issues are?
As I said before, I'm not a politics buff. I can't tell you specific things about each issue. However, I do remember my feelings and reactions when I watched the debates. I've been trying to catch as many debates as I can.
Or is it sufficient to you that he's a national candidate for president, and therefore he must be the height of mendacity and selfishness? Has it occurred to you, at any point, that the reason we're in such dire straits viz-a-viz those issues is due, almost completely, to a decade of Republican control of government?
As I said before, for a very long time I supported Obama with all my heart. It's only recently, after I've watched many debates both rep and dem, that I've stopped supporting the dem candidates. Are their views closer to mine than the reps'? Of course. Are they enough? Not for me.
No, of course not. "They're all the same." "Can't tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats."
Please don't vote.
I've never said they sound the same to me. I can tell the differences. They're definitely not the same.
This from the guy who can't possibly be bothered to do any research about the positions of the candidates.
Again, I'm not a politics buff so I can't tell you specific things. I do, however, remember my reactions to each candidate's answers to specific questions in debates.
Please don't vote. Your vote offsets someone who actually got involved in the process and made an intelligent decision about how they wanted to influence the government.
What part of "I'm not going to vote this upcoming primary" don't you understand? You sound like I insist on voting.
Let me say again. I'm not going to vote this upcoming primary. This is due to the following reasons: (1) I've found that my positive reactions to the candidates' positions are diminishing and (2) I've found that I don't know nearly enough specific things about politics or the candidates to have an informed decision. For now, I only have my feelings and reactions to base my decision on, and, as I've been trying to make the same damn argument for years, you can't have an informed opinion or make an informed decision if you only have your feelings and natural reactions to go on.
Crash, it seems to me like you're criticizing me for realizing my own limitations and ignorance.
Also, please don't refer to black people as "monkeys."
Will do.
Gosh, I guess if you want to be an ignorant racist, there's really nobody stopping you.
I guess not.

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Taz
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From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 88 of 308 (436626)
11-26-2007 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Hyroglyphx
11-26-2007 6:23 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
Nem writes:
Since you live in Illinois, maybe you have a deeper insight on the man than IL non-residents. So what's the deal? What did he do that was so egregious?
He's black. Isn't that a good reason enough?

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
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Message 91 of 308 (436644)
11-26-2007 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Hyroglyphx
11-26-2007 8:43 PM


Re: The Obama/Osama connection?
I don't know. Was it?

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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