The Universal Moral Law & Devolution since the Fall

it doesn't say that though it says, they knew good and evil, if they know good and evil the next step is immortality, it says it right there in 3:23
it seems pretty darn clear to me that god didn't want them to be immortal
i just thought of this, if the earth is only a few days old, when were adam and eve immortal? god gives them long life, but doesn't make them immortal, maybe he set the angels to keep them out so they cant' get to the tree to eat the fruit nessasary to become immortalit may not be new but i've never really seen anyone talk about this, but maybe i just missed it
this still sounds just like any other myth i've ever read it works just like greek myths as just-so storiesgreek myths don't resemble the A&E story but the structure is just the same

well other animals show more wisdom than we do sometimes, but if you mean some sorta of metaphysical being, i'd like to see a real one beofr assessing how wise it is
but you miss understand phat, just because its myth doesn't make it anyless useful or meaningful. you just can't say its history or how things happened. hmm yes, but believing in something doesn't mean it happened that way no all moral law has execptions to it, even the bible shows this, both faith and i brought up verses in the OT from the same book about punishment by decent, both in context are both right and wrong.
this shows that morality is reletive to even god hope,faith,desire,any good positive emotion to incite people to a higher calling?
why do we tell our children that they can be anything, even if they are dumb as a brick? to show gods power and control over everything and via that the power and control of the priests being his serventsmyths are good things,but i get tired of people using the word as if it makes the word distasteful
being not true doesn't make it a lie, it was a belief of people, not intended to deceave after all

you see, the books do not show this at all. most of the OT and NT show that at some point they hacked out parts of it and pasted in things. why does it have three versions of the ten commendments?i hope you mean men inspired by god and not written or controlled by god, because if god wrote, i doubt it would be such a mess and be more accurate
all of the books are inspired, just like the bible, they just arn't inspired by yahweh

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"no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life." - William Dembski

it should matter a lot, how in the world do you convince people if its true or not? how can you tell non-believers it is true, if it doesn't show it? As i have said a lot now, just because you believe something doesn't make it true, anymore than if i believed i could fly hard enough, it still wouldn't make me defy gravity.the fact that you and a million or 10 billion people believe some guy can walk on water doesn't mean crap if the book you believe in doesn't show its consistent or inspired by god and the way you use inspired is so twisty i never know what you mean by inspired.do you mean it was written by god through the authors or written to understand god? i can see the latter, but the way the book is written i can never believe the former no matter how many times you claim it, it just doesn't show it.
its sad that you would trust a book constructed by COMMITY, than the creation of god around you, this just plain scares me! then why do you stay on here? why bother? it doesn't look like you give a damn about what anyone else thinks and you don't exactly show very good tolerence of others points of view.
Hey believe what you want i guess, but don't think i will let anyone claim that they have the one key to the universe in a book written by people who didn't even have books is right, without a fight!by the way where in the world did i even talk about racism??! you need to get your posts streight, i know why god chose the jews, they wrote the torah, it was a book about their religion of course they would make themselves specialif all your belief henges on whether or not people before you believed what you do, then that just scares me too, thats no way to pick what to believe!

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"no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life." - William Dembski

its odd that a person who tries so hard to convince people, says that it doesn't matter if we do or do not think its true.its reminds me of those artsy people who make crappy movies, then when their audience says it was terrible, they snub the critics by saying "well it wasn't made for YOU!"

what objective veracity? what context, you keep saying this like its true, but you have yet to show it. why bother answering me if you don't even care, why post to evc if it doesn't matter what people think?its obvious you do or you wouldn't keep repeating yourself expecting people to bow down to your book and say "your right, we are wrong!" where does it show it? all i see is a bunch of stories just like in all the books on greek belief, celtic belief, and norse belief, its no different than them. logically if i have to ask this it must not then.
your snide unnessisary comment asside, i'm asking a real honest question, the fact that you are the one not really understanding me, i'm asking what makes your book obvious its right?

you see this is why people question and don't want a part of christianity. why is it true? because you believe it is? true things are true no matter what, which means i could in my unbelief in your god see the truth without being a christian, if its factually uniqivicually true its true without belief.
but the bible is not.
god is true, but god doesn't need the bible to be true
how does it matter to me? i don't believe the bible, the bible is irrelevent, all that should matter should be what god thinks.
if i am in trouble, this shows only that a bunch of men thought this was what god wants. i believe in god as the shaper of the universe, i just don't see your commity based book as a guide to god.i see it as a book for learning about how people think about god, but its not much of a guide to god what part you do nothing but claim you are right and everyone else is wrong, you add nothing to this, other than the hollow mouthing of a fundie
reading the things i quoted, reminds me of when jesus attacked the pharisees, i think Yec fundimentalism is the new phariseesEdited by ReverendDG, : No reason given.