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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He's not a Christian, Iano. ============= That is not for you or I to decide. Nor for you or I to declare. I totally disagree. This is beyond question. Ask him if you don't believe me.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Absolutely crazy, I agree. Completely upside down and backwards to call feeling sorry for someone in pain "dehumanizing" or "spitting on them" or "boasting" -- but it's all of a piece with this odd idea that calling oneself morally exemplary and the greatest friend who ever lived NOT boasting. Truly wonderland around here. I'm not offended by it as you seem to be, but boasting it certainly is.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think you caught their logic there.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well you and me both.
Flowers are the way the earth laughs. Retch. We need to start a very exclusive club for those very few who understand what's wrong with that kind of sentiment.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wow, that blast of moral indignation against a guy who felt something for some people who have suffered greatly is just perverse.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's called empathy. Sensitivity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm sorry. I just dislike sentimentality. It's phony. Sometimes it's mere inarticulateness though, not always phoniness. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings about it. I would never say this to anyone normally. It just has to be said on a thread like this which is ABOUT such things and in which you are all trashing Robin because of his perfectly sensible feelings and arguments.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why are you all making this huge moral calamity out of a man's feeling for people who are suffering?????
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
A FEELING of pity is not the same thing as SAYING to their face how you pity them. Pity has acquired a nasty meaning from those who use it to put someone down, which has in fact been done here. But that's because it's a LIE. True pity is just feeling with your fellow man.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There's nothing sentimental and phony about rescuing animals and caring for animals. But there sure is about making ooing and ahing over baby birds into the meaning of life, and there sure is about saying that flowers are how the earth laughs. Yik. Almost ruins the beauty of flowers and the charm of baby birds. It's about proportion.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"Sentiment" is probably what you are thinking of. Most of us have quite a bit of sentimentality too, so in itself it's just a human thing. The problem is in elevating sentimental expressions to the meaning of life.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actually, Doc's remark pretty much qualifies him for Robin's and my club. In case it's just a flash in the pan, though, he'd have to undergo testing.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
True pity is not feeling for your fellow man. True pity is putting yourself into another person's shoes and trying to experience their life and then after doing that, doing something to help your fellow man THAT is pity. The way I feel you are using pity is more like apathy because you do nothing, you say their life is pitiful and then you proceed to do nothing. Good grief, man, how do you know what anybody here does to help out others? And hey, how are you so sure they'd like you to sit down and talk to them anyway, since you're into questioning everybody's reactions but your own? They might experience your conversation as a royal pain.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Some people know how to read facial expressions and body language better than others.
This objection to a feeling of pity for old men who have spent much of their lives in an institution with terrible wounds is mindboggling. I'm sure most people just pass them by, either feeling nothing or avoiding whatever they do feel, or saying something cheery and patronizing. But you all would attack a guy who felt for them. You're all nuts.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah well the proof IS in the pudding.
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