Will I see Hitler in heaven?

If He hated the Nazi's, why did He sit on his lazy ass and do nothing about them?Brian.

He took His time then didn't He?Six million of God's chosen people slaughtered while Jesus sat preening His beard, cutting His toenails, washing His shrouds, and helping the Pope count the Vatican billions. Jesus needs a good talking too. Aren't you assuming that we live in a dualistic universe?Brian.

Hi Omni, But, according to the warped fundy mindset babies are indeed guilty, all of mankind is guilty.My friend John, who is now teaching in the USA, essentially answered your question when I enquired about the nice old grandma who helps when she can and never insults anyone, where is she going when she dies.His reply was that she is rancid with sin until she accepts Jesus into her heart, it doesn't matter how nice you are, or how much you help others, everyone is tainted with sin until you accept Jesus' sacrifice and repent.Remember, when talking to fundies, you need to consider their mindset, they only have a one track mind, the veracity of the Bible, every syllable.I think the easiest way to reconcile suffering with a loving God is to realise that there is no such thing as God. The concept is very outdate now and the only real growth area for Christianity is in third world countries, or oppressed countries, or wealthy countries with home schooling.The problem is, some people need the comfort of there being a big daddy in the sky to look after them and give them a reward at the end of it all, and to keep this delusion alive they will accept any pathetic apologetic (of which free will is the saddest) to keep it intact.Liberating yourself from the suffocation of believing in God doesn't make you a bad person, but it does enable you to be a free thinker, and frees you from racist and sexist legends.Brian.

Only when they are free from the restraints of an outdated concept such as theism, or even Christianity. These ideas put limits on the believer's thoughts. For example, a young earther doesn;t have the ability to think about an ancient universe. What is bad and good? The free will defence is the last bastion of the desparate fundy, when all other apologetics get shot down they wheel out the FWD without even thinking it through.To have true free will you need to have access to all the possibilites. Take the Eden myth, Adam and Eve didn't know what good or evil was, but if they did do you think if they knew their descendants would all be cursed by this jealous God they would have ate the fruit?The free will defence is a joke, when the going gets tough the fundy gets the FWD.You cannot have an all loving God that watches 6 million Jews being slaughtered and does nothing. Oh and before you say He didn;t want to invade the free will of the Nazis, there are many examples of God intervening in human history in the Old Testament. So, we know God has no problem taking sides and actually particpating in the battle against an enemy of Israel (Ai for example, where God killed more enemies than Israel did).Brian.

After thinking a lot about The Critic's message, I have come to the conclusion that his lifetime suspension is unwarranted.The fact that he is a complete dick shouldn't mean that he gets a ban for his beliefs.If he sincerely believes these reasons then why should he get banned just because it makes us normal folk feel physically sick?One of the aims of EvC is to educate people, and I think the Critic really needs to be educated, especially on his knowledge of the Bible.His views are repulsive yes, and I have heard this justified punishment of the Jews argument from Christians before (not many I must add), but just because we think he has gross beliefs, and who is to say he isn't accurate, we shouldn't ban him any more than Iano should be banned for being a bigot. It is just the way they are, incomprehensible stances for normal people to comprehend, but they are entitled to them.Brian.