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Author Topic:   Can those outside of science credibly speak about science?
robinrohan
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Message 187 of 198 (292478)
03-05-2006 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by nator
03-05-2006 5:10 PM


Re: Living fallaciously
That you don't understand this fact is yet another indication that you do not understand the issues in this thread.
I think I understand the issues fairly well. And I can tell you that when presented with a fallacy, people recognize it.
What happens is that people don't THINK in real world situations. Take my example of the "great artist":
All great artists have a lot of women.
I have a lot of women.
Therefore, I am a great artist.
If my friend had been able to realize that this was the idea he was living by, he would have recognized immediately the fallacy involved.
In fact, he did recognize it eventually.

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robinrohan
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Message 188 of 198 (292482)
03-05-2006 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by PaulK
03-05-2006 5:08 PM


Re: Living fallaciously
Indeed at this point I have to ask what possible result could falsify your position
If I had a class of students that couldn't recognize the fallacy of the undistributed middle term, that would falsify it. In 20 years, that has not happened.
Therefore, I am right.

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robinrohan
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Message 192 of 198 (292496)
03-05-2006 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by nator
03-05-2006 5:47 PM


Re: Living fallaciously
If you are trying to argue that when given carefully constructed logic problems in a research setting, people are bad at logic, but when thrown into the messy real world to deal with practical issues people are naturally very good at logic, boy are you wrong. The volume of research on how both patients and medical personnel make logical errors in interpreting diagnostic data is staggering (and scary).
I think you said this before. Why are you repeating yourself? Are you a broken record?

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robinrohan
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Message 195 of 198 (292499)
03-05-2006 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by crashfrog
03-05-2006 5:56 PM


Re: Living fallaciously
Apparently not; you've consistently ignored your own fallacious thinking.
Funny.
Obviously, Crashfrog, my fallacy has not been presented clearly to me.

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robinrohan
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Message 198 of 198 (292502)
03-05-2006 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by crashfrog
03-05-2006 5:57 PM


Re: Living fallaciously
So, you're rebutting a claim that people do not recognize logical fallacies unles educated about them with an observation of educated persons recognizing logical fallacies?
Does that seem logical to you?
They weren't "educated' about them. I present them with a syllogism and ask them if it makes sense. They recognize immediately the fallacy. They have no name for it of course.
Proof positive.
One might want to observe real people in action--rather than your acedemic tricks.

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