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Author Topic:   What led you to God?
lfen
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Message 259 of 300 (279897)
01-18-2006 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by robinrohan
01-18-2006 12:58 PM


A sentimental view of human life is one in which one adopts a certain belief because it makes one feel good (or bad, for that matter), or one slurs over what human life is really like with vague, pleasant-sounding comments, or one ignores what human life is really like completely. By "human life," I mean human life as a whole, not the life of this or that person.
Robin,
"makes one feel good" is a purpose! To slur over "what human life is really like ... ignores what human life is really like"
"really like" you are here I think asking for a ideal platonic meaning, or form for a human life.
"human life as a whole" is an abstraction! An abstraction! At this point I think you may as well let the question expand all the way, I don't see any meaningful limit, to the question of "The meaning of life, the universe, and everything".
And God's latest revelation to St. Dougles Adams is that there is an answer to that, rest assured, it is 42! IIRC, I've misplaced the scripture.
But seriously, I think we have to back this up and ask if you are asking meaningful questions. I think you have gone astray with your semantics and gotten off into a confused philosophy as a result.
lfen

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lfen
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From: Oregon
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Message 298 of 300 (280121)
01-19-2006 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by robinrohan
01-19-2006 3:14 PM


Re: objective purpose
Formal purpose is inherent--and objective.
You are reifying the concept of purpose. Purpose is a word humans use when discussing actions and motivations. It is a possible discription of a brain function.
Why did you pick up the stick? (possible answers might be: for fire wood, I wanted a walking stick, to knock an apple out of the tree). So what, as Jar asked, is the purpose of a stick?
What is the purpose of a concave clay object I shaped and hardened in a fire? (possible answers: something to carry water in, something to wear on my head, something to make music with) So what is the purpose of the clay object? Is it in the clay object? Or is the purpose something I claim as a "motivation" a possible functional endgain for my activity?
I agree that humans have no purpose. Why would they? or should they?
I don't understand how this question even arises.
lfen

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