Christianity Is Broken, but Can Be Fixed

There is no evidence for this assertion. Please provide some.

Excellent! A request for support that resulted in support! Truthlover, I am thrilled.All of the sources you cite (which seem good and which I completely accept) credit early Christians with being sober good citizens. Are you referring to fixing Christianity so that it provides good social controls?Added: Rereading this I realize that the first line may have sounded sarcastic. I assure you it was not.This message has been edited by mikehager, 11-15-2005 07:01 PM

I don't have any idea. Enlighten me?My question was this: All the quotes you provided me were in regards to how the early Christians were very solid citizens. I was asking if that was the goal you wanted to reach in "fixing" Christianity.

See TL's reply to me. That was some fair evidence in regards to how those who lived in larger communities viewed early Christians. Whether that evidence actually supports TL's position is something i am still trying to decide. The Bible is not an historically reliable volume, so this quote from the book of Acts is certainly useless.

Believe what you will. I will continue to doubt the historical veracity of a book that talks about a world destroying flood, a boat that could hold 2 or 7 individuals of each species on earth, and people rising from the dead.ABE: Posted before I saw AdminShraf's comments.This message has been edited by mikehager, 11-17-2005 02:33 PM

A good, reasoned reply. However, your goal, which you mention several times, still seems undefined.What precisely is it? If you cannot state it, how will you know when you have reached it?The criteria I seem to gather from your comments is that those outside our theoretical fixed christian group determine our success when they begin commenting on it. Is that the goal, then? To have other view us and comment on us as good, loving people? To be "known for love, unity, and doing good" as you put it.I'm not picking on you, if it seems I am. There may be something to your position, but you seem a little unclear yourself on what your position is. By questioning you closely, I am trying to at the same time understand your position and help you clarify it. I say this because I am often short with thiests and I do not in this case want to seem so.