Christianity Is Broken, but Can Be Fixed

What type of evidence will you accept, Mike? In addition to truthlovers excellent quotes from other sources, the book of Acts records a time when faith produced what it was foretold to become. Human nature took over and people tried to raise up and be like gods themselves. This message has been edited by Charismaniac, 11-16-2005 04:47 AM

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Matt 10:39-40 "Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me."Jesus Christ
Heb 4:12-13-- For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
Holy Spirit,speaking through the Apostle Paul

Hi, Iano! This is a crucial issue among Christians....While I believe that the church should not be exclusive, I also believe that the church needs to be powerful and relevant!Truthlover is a bit of a Protestant Monk...we all are not called to the lifestyle that he has embraced, but ALL of us are called to be in the world yet not OF the world. Many modern day Christian spokesman are nothing more than Protestant Popes...motivated to influence a theocratic kingdom (even though Jesus said that His kingdom was NOT of this world) and to legislate morality (as was done in Europe with disasterous results!) D.James Kennedy, Robertson, and other high profile spokesmen are nor representative of Christ...but of a theocratic agenda of their own doing! Not necessarily...you are also a block of ignorant voters...pushing a theocratic agenda on the masses much like the Roman Catholic Church attempted to run Europe!The effect of churches full of non-christian voters who influence public policies while not understanding Christian values is the same thing as an illiterate group of the population blindly allowing unsaved Popes to influence the military and manifest destinies of Absolutist Monarchs of the first millineum.The church is no mere social club where everybody agrees to legislate morality for the entire planet! The church is a dynamic communion with the Holy Spirit such as the upper room believers experienced! IMHO, anyway... This message has been edited by Charismaniac, 11-16-2005 02:45 PM

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Matt 10:39-40 "Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me."Jesus Christ
Heb 4:12-13-- For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
Holy Spirit,speaking through the Apostle Paul

This is why I believe that a Second Coming of Christ, a general falling away of a majority of people, and many many wars and rumors of wars will literally happen in the near future (as they already have done)That being said, I don't believe that people should sell everything and give the proceeds to the church. That trick was tried at the year 1000 a.d.TL has an approach to Christianity that is necessary for him and his family. He is, as I say, a sort of a protestant Monk. For those of us who think that the modern world is not evil, I still believe that we are called out of it in a spiritual sense. Not a religious, uppity, holier than thou attitude so much as a behavior and a lifestyle that are honorable and show a good example to those younger who seek answers to human behavior.Christianity works best when those of us who call ourselves Christian are humble enough to realize that we are no better than anyone regardless of the behavior....but that we have an impartation to change our behavior (or allow it to be changed) through Holy Communion, prayer, and fellowship.

Yes...I believe this as well. I would take it a step further, however. Live the person...Be Jesus rather than merely preaching
about Him. To be in the world yet not of the world is a challenge for todays "Christian". Often, we can effectively build relationships with others without compromising or watering down our values. Jesus was only confrontational with the Pharisees and the religious hypocrites. He never rebuked the common folk for failing to understand His message.Food for thought..(Gotta run to work, ttyl )