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Topic: The politics of assassination
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 80 of 150 (237287)
08-26-2005 11:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 78 by joshua221
08-26-2005 11:17 AM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
a preacher tried to tell me that America was founded on Christianity, and that the founding fathers were born-again Christians Woodrow Wilson writes: Woodrow Wilson, " America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scriptures. Ladies and gentlemen, I have a very simple thing to ask of you. I as of every man and woman in this audience that from this night on they will realize that part of the destiny of America lies in their daily perusal of this great book of revelations. That if they would see America free and pure they will make their own spirits free and pure by this baptism of the Holy Scripture." Woodrow Wilson, 1911, pre-Presidential campaign speech.
Harry Truman writes: The fundamental basis of this nation's law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teaching we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days. If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in the right for anybody except the state. Abraham Linocln writes: Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. Andrew Jackson writes: "Go to the Scriptures...the joyful promises it contains will be a balsam to all your troubles. That book...is the rock on which our republic rests." "Sir, I am in the hands of a merciful God. I have full confidence in His goodness and mercy...The Bible is true. I have tried to conform to its spirit as near as possible. Upon that sacred volume I rest my hope for eternal salvation, through the merits and blood of our blessed Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ." [May 29th, 1845, just a few weeks before he died] John Quincy Adams writes: "It is no slight testimonial, both to the merit and worth of Christianity, that in all ages since its promulgation the great mass of those who have risen to eminence by their profound wisdom and integrity have recognized and reverenced Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of the living God." James Monroe writes: The liberty, prosperity, and the happiness of our country will always be the object of my most fervent prayers to the Supreme Author of All Good. March 5, 1821 in his Second Inaugural Address Gee, I wonder why anyone would think they were christains?
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 85 of 150 (237312)
08-26-2005 12:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 81 by Theodoric
08-26-2005 12:22 PM
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Re: founding fathers Tal
Yeah, John Quincy Adams (6th President) doesn't count eh? But, fine.
Benjamin Franklin - The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: 'that God governs in the affairs of men.' And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? I have now disposed of all my property to my family. There is one thing more I wish I could give them, and that is the Christian religion. That was "Give me liberty of give me death" Patrick Henry Here's the full quote
Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
Here's Patrick Henry again, letter to his daughter Betsy, 20 August, 1796.
Amongst other strange things said of me, I hear it is said by the deists that I am one of the number; and indeed, that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory; because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politics; and I find much cause to reproach myself that I have lived so long, and have given no decided and public proofs of my being a Christian. But, indeed, my dear child, this is a character which I prize far above all this world has, or can boast. John Jay - Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. John Jay was our first Chief Justice.
Samuel Adams - Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age, by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, of inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity and universal philanthropy, and, in subordination to these great principles, the love of their country; of instructing them in the art of self-government without which they never can act a wise part in the government of societies, great or small; in short, of leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 92 of 150 (237334)
08-26-2005 1:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 91 by Nuggin
08-26-2005 1:11 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
That's a very bigotted comment.
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 93 of 150 (237336)
08-26-2005 1:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 90 by Nuggin
08-26-2005 1:09 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
This, however, doesn't make us a "Christian Nation".
It does in my mind, but my original intent was to counter this statement.
a preacher tried to tell me that America was founded on Christianity, and that the founding fathers were born-again Christians And I have done so.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 102 of 150 (237350)
08-26-2005 1:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 95 by Theodoric
08-26-2005 1:31 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
If you make a statement you must provide proof. Please provide evidence that the Founding Fathers were born again christians. I already provided you a bunch of quotes. Can we reasonably assume from those quotes that they were born again christians? I say yes. Can we prove it? No.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 108 of 150 (237361)
08-26-2005 1:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 99 by Nuggin
08-26-2005 1:38 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
Are we a nation ruled by Biblical Law (like the Muslim Nations are ruled the Koran?) Are we a nation who has a large number of Christians living here? No we are not, and it was specifically the founding fathers' intentions not to have a "church of the state" like the church of england. I define christain nation as: Christianity is where our founding fathers drew their basic moral concepts from and wrote secular laws based on those morals, with freedom of religion for all.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
You can't just make a statement and not back it up. YOu have to have evidence. I have shown why your quotes do not back up your assertion and I think most people on this thread would agree with me. THis is typical for you. Spout fudie rhetoric and have no evidence that back s up your argument. You pretend to provide it, but it doesnt really exist.
The quotes are there. That is evidence. Evidence of what is up to your intepretation.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 112 of 150 (237366)
08-26-2005 1:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 110 by Nuggin
08-26-2005 1:50 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
LMAO! No, Tal, this-- Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children* -- is a bigotted comment.
It isn't bigotted. It is scientific evidence.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 119 of 150 (237398)
08-26-2005 2:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 116 by Nuggin
08-26-2005 2:00 PM
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
Ah ha! I've found the underlying root problem we've been having. Tal doesn't understand the meaning of the word "evidence". No wonder we've had such a struggle. Been waiting for you say this. This evidence was presented by YOUR SIDE.
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
FliesOnly writes: Basically, Tal has no friggen clue about science and/or cannot read a scientific paper and undertsand what it means.
You mean Rahvin has no friggin clue.
Rahvin writes: You didn't read my previous posts. Experimentation with flies has shown that certain gene will turn otherwise normal flies into homosexuals. Switch the gene, and bam! they act like they are the opposite gender, and attempt to mate with other flies of their own sex. Rhavin's Source Gay gene zapper all the way baby. This message has been edited by Tal, 08-26-2005 03:18 PM
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: Well, I cannot defend Rev. Robertson, Faith
Already posted it for review in message 124. lol, you edited too quick. Look, if you guys have a problem with the gay gene switch, take it up Rahvin, not me. It wasn't cited by me as evidence, it isn't my argument. This message has been edited by Tal, 08-26-2005 03:22 PM
Tired of the opposite sex? Want to turn your favorite football player into a raging homsexual? Then purchase your Gay-Gene Cattle Prod! One Zap from the GGCP will turn the Gay Gene off or on at your whim. So if you want your wife to get some hot girl on girl action, the Gay-Gene Cattle Prod is for you! *not intended for use on children*
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