To atheists: Why do you help me?

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Originally posted by Andya Primanda:
Anyway, tomorrow is the start of Ramadhan, the fasting month. We Muslims will refrain from eating, drinking, and having sexual intercourse from sunrise to sunset for a month. A local custom here among Muslims is that we seek forgiveness from our acquaintances the last day before Ramadhan. Allah will forgive our offenses to Him if we observe the fasting month, but forgiveness from our sins to other people can only be obtained from those people. Therefore, if I had done anything that offended anybody in EvC: Percy, Moose, Quetzal, John, Mammuthus, TB, Peter, SLPx, P.Borger, Schraf, Gene90, Mark24, Nos482, Delshad, Budikka, Fred Williams, and others I cannot remember right now (sorry!), I ask you for forgiveness.

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Peace to all of you!

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Ramadhan sounds basicially like the Christian practice of lent."Lent is the period of six and one half weeks from Ash Wednesday
to Easter Sunday. During Lent, for 40 days, excluding Sundays, fasting
is recommended for all Catholics according to the laws of fast.
This is reminiscent of the 40 days of our Lord's unbroken fast (Mt.
4:3-4). The entire period of Lent is also a time of spiritual preparation
for the passion, death, and resurrection of Christ. It is observed
as a time of penitence other than fasting, and as a time of prayer.
The Liturgy of the Church reflects the significance of this period
of spiritual preparation: each day has a special Mass assigned to
it; those Masses date back to the seventh and eighth centuries;
there are no feasts observed on Sundays; purple vestments are the daily color..."You haven't offended me in the least, though, I've been the one who has offended others without really having to try hard. [This message has been edited by nos482, 11-05-2002]

Originally posted by Tranquility Base:Andya, my simple comment is that I think you have swallowed the evolutionary line too uncritically.That's like saying that he "swallowed the physics line" about gravity too uncritically.Have you ever stopped to consider that evolution could be the 'easy path' that our spiritual sight can correct us on?"spiriual sight"? Do you have any proof of this assertion? No, evolution isn't the "easy path". The easy path is saying, "GODDIDIT!"[This message has been edited by nos482, 11-05-2002]

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Originally posted by John:
Well, Nos is back and abrasive as usual but gosh darn if this comment isn't right on the nose. Having to figure things out for oneself is definitely not the "easy way out" The easy way out is "this book says so"

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Would you expect anything else? Since I'm a type 2 diabetic I don't like to sugar-coat anything. [This message has been edited by nos482, 11-06-2002]

Originally posted by John:Jews and Christians are talking 3000 years after the fact.

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Did you see my post #7 on this thread? I elaborated on my statement a bit.

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Isn't Judaism almost 6000 years old? And wasn't the OT originally recorded through much older oral traditions? Or doesn't that count unless it is written down?