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Author Topic:   is the US sliding into Fascism? Evidence for and against
Phat
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Message 172 of 257 (207368)
05-12-2005 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by Tal
05-11-2005 12:48 PM


Re: Fascism: Alive and well in 21st century America
My opinion, based on nothing but common sense and speculation, is that Iraq has definitely had limited weapons of mass destruction and that these weapons have drifted out into the general sympathetic militia in that region. The war that is being fought is viewed much differently for the Islamic Jihad sympathizers than it is for the typical U.S. liberal. (Not that I support a conservative theocracy, mind you)
The fact is that there will be another 9-11 type of a day coming up on the horizon. This day is either going to be catastrophic or it will be disrupted by our forces, yet still rather severe. It will show that the theory of WMD was justified in principal.
The weapons are out there. Our challenge, as Americans, is to use every means that we have to eliminate the major concentrations of power that support the Jihad militia. Secondarily, we must be humane enough that our enemy gives up the senseless ideology of destruction that has been brainwashed into their minds.
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Phat
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Message 181 of 257 (207391)
05-12-2005 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by nator
05-12-2005 10:45 AM


Re: Fascism: Alive and well in 21st century America
I agree with the facts. WMD have never been found. Iraq never had the money or the time to mass produce the WMD. The motive and the means was still there, however. In all probability, there are WMD in the hands of Jihad rogues as we speak. Knowing that once they use such weapons, the war against them will only intensify, my speculation is that there is a certain time planned for a coordinated future attack, similar to 9-11.
Mainly convential weapons...some gas....Iran has the nukes, so hopefully the nukes are protected. Perhaps a dirty bomb or two.

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