Did They Write About Jesus in the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms?

Jesus is the speaker in this scripture.I have a very simple question:What was written about Jesus in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms?Please site the scripture and explain how the author is refering to Jesus within the timeframe the work was written and the intended audience.Admins: Accuracy and Inerrancy please, Thanks.

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also, this going to seem strange to some. but in the interests to literalness, we should restrict this debate to just the set of books jesus actually mentioned.

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I do want what was written about Jesus in the specific documents Jesus supposedly said wrote about him as quoted in the opening scripture.The Law of Moses, which isn't necessarily the Torah (5 Books)
The Prophets (which you listed)
and the PsalmsDeuteronomy and Joshua speak of the book of the Law. One book, singular.

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please not that this rules out the following books as valid for discussion, since jesus did not talk about them:

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Not to be rude, but for this thread I am confining the discussion to the books that Jesus mentioned in the opening scripture.I don't really want this thread to go amuck, if that's possible.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

You missed one part of the OP.

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The Messiah will be the offspring (descendant) of the woman (Eve) Genesis 3:15 Galatians 4:4

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1. This is not a Law.
2. How does Genesis 3:15 say that the Messiah specifically will be the offspring of the woman Eve. If she was the first woman, then all humans are her offspring.
3. Galations 4:4 does not refer to scripture.

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The Messiah will be a descendant of Abraham, through whom everyone on earth will be blessed Genesis 12:3; 18:18 Acts 3:25,26

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The Messiah will be a descendant of Judah Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:2 and Luke 3:33

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Again not a Law and not specific to Jesus.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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The Messiah will be a prophet like Moses Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Acts 3:22,23

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This scripture doesn't mention the Messiah. God said He would raise up a prophet from among their brothers and that He would put His words in his mouth, and the prophet would tell them everything that God commanded.How is this more specifically Jesus, as opposed to, the other prophets?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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The Messiah will be the Son of God Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17; Mark 1:11; Luke 3:22

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How is this song more specifically about Jesus, as opposed to, the kings of Israel or Judah?

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The Messiah will be raised from the dead (resurrected) Psalm 16:10,11 and 49:15 Matthew 28:5-9; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:4-7; John 20:11-16; Acts 1:3 and 2:32

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How are these a reference to Jesus, as opposed to, the writer of the song?The rest of the Psalms you listed are along the same lines. Explain how they are specifically Jesus and not the writer or singer of the song?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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The Messiah will be born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 1:26-35

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Prophecy fulfilled in Isaiah 8. Explain why you think this sign, given centuries earlier, is for Jesus also?

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The Messiah’s first spiritual work will be in Galilee Isaiah 9:1-7 Matthew 4:12-16

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This scripture doesn't speak of spiritual work, plus the translations don't agree on what the verse says.

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The Messiah will make the blind see, the deaf hear, etc. Isaiah 35:5-6 Many places. Also see Matthew 11:3-6 and John 11:47

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Isaiah 35:4 says that God would come to save them, not an anointed one (messiah). What about the rest of the decree?

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The Messiah will be beaten, mocked, and spat upon Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67 and 27:26-31

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How is this specific to Jesus, as opposed to the writer?You will need to explain how Isaiah 52/53 applies to specifically to Jesus or generally to a messiah. Jesus doesn't fit the bill.

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The Messiah is part of the new and everlasting covenant Isaiah 55:3-4 and Jeremiah 31:31-34 Matthew 26:28; Mark 14:24; Luke 22:20; Hebrews 8:6-13

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No mention of a messiah.

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The Messiah will be our intercessor (intervene for us and plead on our behalf) Isaiah 59:16 Hebrews 9:15

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I think God was speaking of himself as their Redeemer.

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The Messiah has two missions Isaiah 61:1-3 (first mission ends at . . . year of the LORD’s favor) First mission: Luke 4:16-21; Second mission: to be fulfilled at the end of the world

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This is Isaiah talking. No mention of the messiah.

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The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1 and Luke 2:4-7

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Speaks of a clan, not a city. Jesus didn't rule over Israel.

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The Messiah will enter Jerusalem riding a donkey Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:1-11

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Speaks of a King. Jesus didn't become king.

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The Messiah will be sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11:12,13 Matthew 26:15 with Matthew 27:3-10

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Zechariah seems to be speaking and refering to himself.

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The Messiah will forsaken by His disciples Zechariah 13:7 Matthew 26:31,56

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Not speaking of a messiah or necessarily disciples, as opposed to, God and the people of Israel.

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The Messiah will enter the Temple with authority Malachi 3:1 Matthew 21:12 and Luke 19:45

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This talks of God coming to his temple. How is this Jesus?Was Jesus truly refering to scriptural one-liners that needed to be fulfilled?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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Prophecy is interpreted through divine wisdom and not mere scholastic and critical interpretation.

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So interpretation is only correct if it agrees with the present belief?If I remember correctly, some of the prophets were rather unpopular for saying what people didn't want to hear.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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genesis is a part of the torah. torah literally means "law." that makes genesis valid for discussion, unless it can be shown that it was not integrated into the torah until after jesus's time.

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when jesus said "the law" he was referring The Torah, not just the codes of conduct contained in it. torah means law.

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Jesus didn't just say "the law", he said "the law of Moses." I think he was being very specific and not just talking about the five books of Moses.Look at the usage of the "Law of Moses" in the NT. They deal with the rules, not the stories.So I disagree with you, I think Jesus meant the rules and not the five books of Moses.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

OK Phatboy and Faith. This thread is in accuracy and inerrancy. Please show me in the OT where God says that prophecy requires divine wisdom for interpretation by regular people.Deuteromony 18:18-19
...I will put my words in his (the prophet) mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, ...Where does God say in the OT that regular people need divine wisdom to understand the words of the prophet? Please show me where God shows that prophecies will have double fulfillments. Please show me where God says that prophecies have two references.Please show me that these statements are Biblicly based.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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"The Law and the Prophets" is a Biblical phrase.

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But that's not what was said supposedly. But I will let you have it. It doesn't help your case.Genesis 3:15 is not a prophecy and you still haven't shown how it has anything to do with Jesus thousands of years later.

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Jesus was born of a woman, that is, Mary, and had no human father. Normally human beings are said to be the offspring of Adam, and Eve is not mentioned except in connection with Adam. To be born of the woman is something very specific about the Messiah who is promised.

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That's a nice yarn, but has nothing to do with Genesis 3:15.

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The Jews who rejected Jesus thought of him as a bastard, not having a legitimate father.

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I don't remember seeing this in the NT. More tales?Genesis 12:3 is part of a promise from God, not a prophecy. It has nothing to do with the messiah and you haven't shown that it does.Genesis 49:10 also has nothing to do with who the messiah is a descendant of. Jesus did not receive the scepter and rule Israel.

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Prophecy is purposely ambiguous.

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According to whom?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

There is a difference between Deuteronomy 18:15 and the statement made at the end of the Book. Then he proceeded to tell them how to tell a true prophet from a false one.Now for the end of the book: In the first one God is sending a prophet (not a messiah) to speak God's word to the people as Moses did. The true prophets that followed fit the bill.The end of the book states that no prophet has done the same miracles as Moses.What words of God did Jesus pass on? IOW, he proclaimed to the people that God said....

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

You are making this more difficult than it really is.Three "laws" of the 613 were pulled from Genesis.
Circumcision
Be fruitful and multiply
Not to eat the thigh (which is also not in the laws given to Moses)By tradition they have become part of the "laws" that the Jews are to follow. Remember centuries have passed by.The examples you shared are about rules that are to be followed, not prophecies.

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how does that make any sense, though? what could rules speak of a messiah? they're just rules, not prophesy.

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Hey Jesus said it not me. Besides, what true messianic prophecy have they presented us from any of the five books?

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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I'm simply trying to explain what Christian theology says and has said for 2000 years now.

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I already know what Christian theology says and it doesn't match up.The Jews who listened to Jesus only had the OT to check his statements through. They didn't have Christian Theologians.This thread is in accuracy and inerrancy, not faith and belief.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

Exactly!

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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I find it all extremely beautifully consistent myself.

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Unforatunately you haven't shown the consistency in your posts. The explanation and the words don't match up.This is accuracy and inerrancy, which to me means, stick to evidence.IOW, if the words say "the cow jumped over the moon", don't give me that theology says it means the dog jumped over the moon. If you do, you need to show me why the words don't match, with concrete evidence.If you claim double meanings, you need to show evidence of it, etc.Don't pass on Christian Theology if you can't show evidence to support their interpretation.

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"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France