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Author Topic:   What is a Liberal, and What is a Conservative?
joshua221 
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Message 164 of 254 (138843)
09-01-2004 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by crashfrog
09-01-2004 1:35 PM


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This is so self-evident to me that maybe I'm having a hard time explaining it.
No you are doing a superb job of explaining it, but you are having trouble providing evidence, I have!

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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joshua221 
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Message 165 of 254 (138844)
09-01-2004 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Loudmouth
09-01-2004 2:16 PM


Re: Not sure where the confusion is, here
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And it would skew the conservatives towards the same moderate position since they are answering the same as a liberal. Those who would actually fall on the conservative side of such biased questions would be classified as conservative when in fact they do not share a common ideology with actual conservatives. I will agree that it moderates liberal extremism but it also mislabels conservative extremism.
I agree, it seems crash is having a tough time with the evidence.
We have both given evidence, he has shown none.

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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joshua221 
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Message 166 of 254 (138846)
09-01-2004 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by crashfrog
09-01-2004 2:24 PM


Re: Not sure where the confusion is, here
But we are discussing the test, Political Compass.
By making this "simple example" you have done nothing to persuade me to believe that THIS test (political compass) is not biased, and if it was, then the scores rather being way left, would be in the middle.
I am a contridiction to your view. I do not believe I am a conservitive, but the questions on the test forced me to answer "liberally". I'll make a question that would make someone answer like a conservitive.
A prostitute while doing her job, becomes pregnant, (intentions) she gets an abortion because it would make her lose money in the long run, she is in debt, so she decides she has to keep working, and gets the abortion, she got the abortion when at a stage called "partial birth" making what she did illegal.
Do you think the abortion was justified because of the Prostitute's financial difficulties?
I intentionally made that question make you want to answer NO.
Right?
This is eggactly what the test made me feel, (but the other way around of course) Same stuff.

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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joshua221 
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Message 219 of 254 (139135)
09-02-2004 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by crashfrog
09-01-2004 11:58 PM


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Get it, yet?
Yep, I'm going to leave this one alone, we pretty much agree, plus what we were discussing is rather trivial.

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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