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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member
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Similiarly to DA's Message 312, you write:
According to the Survey of Inmates of State Correctional Facilities by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race. Also nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married. So I guess we need to keep all children away from white, married men. Funny to me that when NJ "compared" homosexuals to rapists or animial fuckers that it was a huge catastrophe, but now "your side" is, in the same way, saying that avoiding sex with a black man is the same as avoiding all contact with white married men whatsoever... lulz. But come on, do you really think that avoiding sex with one particular race is the same as avoiding another altogether?
Shows how idiotic it is to stereotype people no matter what color or sex they are. I don't know about the idiocy, but the accuracy seems reasonable... Why is the NBA dominated by blacks? Aren't they just better at basketball? Or is that idiocy? Or the jews with money... or the mexicans with labor, or the asians with math... Aren't you just parroting your own preconcieved notions that none of these things exist? You've made the claim, now show me the data!
You cannot use race, color, ethnicity, age or any other non-relavent factor to stereotype people. Because #1 very rarely are stereotypes accurate.. How many black people, on average, like fried chicken and/or watermelon? What are the odds? If we can use the probability that gods are a product of human imagination in one thread, whay can't we say that black people proabably like fried chicken in another? Is it because we have a fear of being percieved as racist? is it that reasonable conclusions must be qualmed in the attempt at political correctness?
and #2 individuals are not very predictable. My personal experiences suggests otherwise. My black fiends LOVE fired chicken.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Running out of time, cutting your's short, I appologize... but,
As far as your point, I have to ask why you think evolution stopped in Africa but continued in Europe and Asia? that's a non-squitor. I'm not saying they haven't evolved. The point is that there exists a genetic identification between sub-saharan africans with the rest of the ones that migrated out of there up into Europe and on to Asia... contrary to the popular opinion that theres no distinction whatsoever.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
How many black people, on average, like fried chicken and/or watermelon? What are the odds? Who doesn't like fried chicken and watermelon?
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Non sequitor... but to answer your question: Me. I don't like either.
And probably the Chinese and Mexicans; I haven't hear thier odes...
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Well, there is a difference, no? You're not saying that avoiding sex with someone is the same as avoiding contact with them, are you? Surely, we can see that avoiding contact with all white men would be much different that avoinding sex with black ones, can't we? Are you not sleeping with black women because you are statistically 7 times more likely to be infected by HIV or are you using it as a justification for exclusion of an entire race? During sex with people you just meet, HIV should always be on the back of someone's mind, regardless of a race, seems to me. Would you be less likely to hitch-hike with a white, middle-aged man more quickly than you would a black middle-aged man on the sole statistical inference that with the white guy you have a greater chance of being in the midst of a serial killer? If not, aren't you being selective? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Or the jews with money... or the mexicans with labor, or the asians with math...
Yes this is racist. These are racist stereotypes. Jews are no better than other people at math. The reason this stereotype exists is that they were pushed to the periphery of society by christians. Commerce was seen as unseemly for christians and the charging of interests was thought unchristian. Jews took over these positions in society.Mexicans are no better at labor than any other people. In our society that is where we delegate them. Given equal opportunity they are not going to gravitate toward menial labor positions any more than any other people. Your prejudices keep you from seeing that this is a class, or rich, poor, issue not a racial or cultural one. There seem to be plenty of competent lawyers, doctors and professionals in Mexico. Asians and math is another racial stereotype. The 1965 immigration act made preferences for professionals. The influx of asians since then have been educated people that want educated children. Also, there is some speculation that there maybe a cultural help for some asians because their language seems to be more mathematical than western languages. Source My personal experiences suggests otherwise. My black fiends LOVE fired chicken.
Your personal experiences have little to do with reality. I know black people that like baked chicken. I know some that never eat chicken. This is just another racial stereotype that fits your worldview, which from your comments, is obviously driven by some very bad stereotypes. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Why is the NBA dominated by blacks? Aren't they just better at basketball? Or is that idiocy? Or the jews with money... or the mexicans with labor, or the asians with math... But it's only a stereotype, whether or not anecdote makes it seems like things are a certain way. Difference between fact and stereotype: Objective Fact: More black people play in the NBA than white people. (It's a fact because it's based on measurable data) Subjective Stereotype: Because more black people in the NBA it means that black people are therefore better basketball players. (No, not necessarily. That's a stereotype). I get the whole "there's a reason why the stereotype exists, so don't perpetuate it" thing, but it's still a stereotype, which is completely subjective.
How many black people, on average, like fried chicken and/or watermelon? What are the odds? That's stupid. How many people of all races like fried chicken and/or watermelon? And how exactly would you quantify that?
Is it because we have a fear of being percieved as racist? is it that reasonable conclusions must be qualmed in the attempt at political correctness? Well, that's definitely true. Racism has many shades and it's become so taboo that any hint of it, many people have an irrational fear of it. I think some of the proposed ways of curbing racism is itself inherently racist *cough*affirmative action*cough.
My black fiends LOVE fired chicken. So what though? How many people living in the United States (where fried chicken and watermelon is prevalent) don't? It's as useless as saying that black people love cars because most of them you see are driving around in them. It really begs the question: 1. Doesn't everyone in some capacity appreciate cars? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
It should be pointed out that an earlier generation of Asian immigrants was also relegated to menial labour, mostly on the railroads. Who's to say that a century from now the Hispanic people won't be stereotyped as "good at math"? Asians and math is another racial stereotype. The 1965 immigration act made preferences for professionals. The influx of asians since then have been educated people that want educated children. And who's to say that black people won't be stereotyped as loving salad? These "characteristics" are all social and historical, not inherently "racial". Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
All my family loves fried chicken and watermelon.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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onifre Member (Idle past 2979 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Blacks and chickens are quite fond of one another... Does anyone like grape drink? - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2979 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
- Oni
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Well, there is a difference, no? You're not saying that avoiding sex with someone is the same as avoiding contact with them, are you? Surely, we can see that avoiding contact with all white men would be much different that avoinding sex with black ones, can't we? I'm planning to join a lesbian commune. I may have to lie a little on the application form. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
All my family loves fried chicken and watermelon. And I'll add another, pork chops. I'd like to know where the food stereotypes started. ie: do only people from the southern USA eat Okra (gumbo)? I'd say no since I am very fond of it ans I am from the Northern USA Do only Swedes eat Swedish meatballs? Again I'd say no since I am fond of Swedish meatballs and am not Swedish. Do only Koreans eat Kim-Chi? Again I'd say no since I am fond of Kim-Chi and am not Korean. If I followed the White stereotype all I would be eating would be meat & potatoes. which I am not too fond of, tho I am nominally white(White + Native American) There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3804 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
CS writes: that's a non-squitor. I'm not saying they haven't evolved. No it isn’t. It follows from what you said. You said that Homo Sapiens continued to evolve after they interbred with Neanderthals. You were implying that the reason we don’t have just two ‘races’, is that blacks did not continue evolving while the others did. Here it what you said and my reply. Notice the bold.
CS writes: But the "those that carry" could then have further evolved and now be classified into more races so you could actually have more than two.
DB writes: As far as your point, I have to ask why you think evolution stopped in Africa but continued in Europe and Asia? So, my question to you is, ‘Why do you think that those who stayed in Africa stopped evolving?’ Which leads us to this statement
CS writes:
Homo Sapiens in Africa continued to evolve. In fact, because it was a small group of Homo Sapiens who left Africa, the genetic differences between all groups subsequently out of Africa have less genetic differences amongst themselves, while the groups that stayed in Africa are much more diverse. This founder effect is why the majority of the diversity is in Africa and NOT outside it. The point is that there exists a genetic identification between sub-saharan africans with the rest of the ones that migrated out of there up into Europe and on to Asia... contrary to the popular opinion that theres no distinction whatsoever. The fact is that Homo Sapiens evolved IN Africa, then migrated. We are ALL Africans. As a side note, I’d like to point out that it would have been likely that we would have seen a more distinct genetic differentiation between populations of Homo Sapiens if we did not have such a propensity to migrate to new areas, and build boats and other forms of locomotion. That being the case, we love to share our genes and any differences that might pop up are quietly suppressed by that wave of gene flow.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Odd?? Percy, i think there is some thing wrong with the attribution code and the reply mechanism!
I am honored to be lumped in with Ringo, but I am not Ringo. Artemis Entreri says:
One of my favorite bumper stickers: RACIST: A Conservative winning an argument with a liberal.
But, AE, there are, in fact, RACISTS. So your sticker is NFG. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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