Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
If I was a racists, would I date a black woman? Would I marry a Puerto Rican woman?
Yes. Who knows what thrills someone could get from dating and I assume having sex with a minority. But I don't think you are a racist, my point is that you could be even though you date outside your race.
There is a comedian out there, that all he does is make racists comments, but he's not a racist. I will admit that probably both he and I should not make those comments, for two reasons. One, people don't understand because of their ignorance (you) and two, it is a bad influence on people that don't understand and are gullible.
People are full of shit riVeRraT, and they like to take the "I'm better than you" approach whenever someone says something that they were thinking...or have said themselves.
Anyone claiming to not have made a racist comment, or made fun of a racial stereotype, is completely full of shit. I've made them, openly, even to black friends. If they're too sensitive not to see it as a joke, then fuck 'em. Lucky for me they aren't that sensitive. Also, I am a racist, I openly admit that - so do my black friends, and asian friends, and middle eastern friends - and I honestly can't see how anyone isn't. If all it takes to be a racist is the words that come out of your mouth, then EVERYONE is a racist at some point in their life - or sexist, or homophobic, or intolarant.
I have friends from different cultures, countries, races, sexual orientation - but that doesn't mean I won't find myself making a racist comment when frustrated or as a joke. Anyone claiming different is full of shit.
Now, I'm not a white supremacist, hell, I'm not even "white," and I don't go around saying minorities need to leave the US... but let some asian cut me off in traffic, or a black dude in a pimped out ride take my parking space. You better believe (inside my car to myself) I'll be using racial slurs. The funniest thing is when I'm in the car with my black friends and THEY use it when something like that happens too. We're only human, dude.
Personally, I think the PC cops are gaying us up and trying to turn us all into nigger lovers...
They don't, they call themselves nigg(as)...totally different.
I know it used to be a derogatory term, but if they call themselves that, why can't I?
Quick answer, because white people are scared of black people and how they'll react - not that you are, but that's the reason it is now taboo to say it openly. It's masked under the PC reasons for not saying it, but it boils down to white people being scared of black people.
Midget, chink, spic, cunt, and any other word is used normally, except for nigger, because no one is scared of the reaction they'll get from midgets.
Sarah Silverman has a great bit about a joke she did that used the word "nigger" in it. One day she was going to do the joke and there was an entire group of black people in the front row, so, out of fear, she didn't do the joke. And, ended up re-writing the entire joke with the word "chink" instead of nigger. She also explains the fact that she used to do the joke with the word nigger but ended up changing it. So now she does the chink joke, explains that it used to be a nigger joke, and that is now the entire bit - (I hope you were able to follow that - either way the last video I posted is her explaining what I just wrote)
One day she had to do a TV spot and she was going to do the entire bit - (chink joke and explaining that it used to be a nigger joke) - when the TV producer came up to her and asked her if she could change the word nigger to "N" word. She then asked, "What do I say instead of chink?" and the producer replied, "Just say chink."
This is the joke. She used to say "nigger" but change it to chink and it was approved by TV execs:
But as you can see from the video, many were hesitant to laugh, including Penn and Teller.
Here's the video of her explaining when and why she changed the joke:
Would you mind explaining this to me, being a non native English speaker and all?
To the best of my knowledge and how I experienced it:
I grew up saying 'nigga', like CS said about mexicans using the word, hispanics in Miami use the word in the same sense black people use it. It means bro or dude, or something like that.
"Nigger" is the derogatory word used by slave owners. Black people, in an effort to take away the power of the word and how it was used by white slave owners, began to use it themselves. In other words, how can you insult me calling me a nigger when we use that word to mean bro or dude (or something like that)...? They took the power that word had away from it by using it themselves.
Also, they use a slight different word: nigga'
In fact, a black person will insult another black person by calling them a nigg(er), it is offensive if used toward one another. I've seen it, and heard it, used by black friends when insulting a black person, or someone who acts like a thugged-out idiot. I've even heard it used to describe a person of a different race, but who acting like a thugged-out idiot.
White people call the shitty members of their race "white trash," black people still refer to the shitty members of their race as "niggers." They also refer to anyone of any race who is the shitty member of that race as a nigger, in the same sense as a white person would call them "trash."
Like the video you posted of Rock, there's "niggers" and there are black people. Think of that in the same sense as there's white people and then there's white trash.
But separate from that completely is nigga, which simply means bro or dude. Example "Wud up, nigga?" "Yo this nigga is acting stupid" "Did you see where that nigga went?" - as you can see, you can replace the word 'nigga' with 'dude or 'bro' in any one of those sentences. That's ebonics 101. Lol
Or maybe young Lyx can help?
Ok, what I meant was why would black people get offended if I called them "niggers", or even "niggas" for that matter?
Yes, white people have no rights to that word anymore. That was the objective of them using it, you no longer have rights to it. Now, if you'd like to explain that you're from another country and have heard it in movies and don't really know the history of the word and were using it in a friendly manner, be my guest. But black people hit harder than midgets.
In their eyes, white people own everything, they got a word. They're holding on to that word and you can't have it back.
I'd be scared of that, did you notice their height? They'll headbut you straight in the dangly bits.
True. My friend does a bit about being attacked by midgets. He says after they beat you up they carry you away like ants with a ham sandwich. Lol
She's one to talk, money grabbing, gold hiding, plotting to overtake the world, hook nosed kike!
She's also a fag!
Quite. I'd bang her. And then, when she's asleep after two days and nights of hot passionate love, I'd go search her house for that Jew gold.
? Was that him? In the intro to a song or something?
I know I've heard that but I don't know if that was him. Looks like his style of writting.
My fav KRS lyrics:
"The white man ain't the devil I promise You want to see the devil take a look at Clarence Thomas Now you're saying, "Who?" like you a owl Throw in the towel, the devil is Colin Powell You talk about being African and being black Colin Powell's black, but Libya he'll attack Libya's in Africa, but a black man will lead a black man, to fight against his homeland An accomplice to the devil is a devil too The devil is anti-human, who the hell are you? I lecture and rap without rehearsal I manifest as a black man but I'm universal"
LOL, as if Libyans are black Africans. Knowledge Reigns Supreme? maybe if you had some geographical and historical knowledge about Africa, your lyrics would make sense, instead of sounding like the absence of knowledge. Libya, hmm (1st ruled by Phoenicians, Then Greeks, then Romans, then Arabs, then Italians; none of these people sound black to me). Silly KRS, the Egyptians weren't black either bro.
Were you hoping KRS One was reading this?
Anyway... he said a black man will lead a black man to attack his homeland, as in Africa, and any place within that entire continent. His issue isn't about color. He considers everyone who lives in Africa to be of the same motherland, regardless of color. Imagine that, loving people and considering them your brother/sister regardless of their color.
Many KRS One fans treat him like he is something more than a street poet, like the Knowledge he drops has any scholarly merit. don't get it twisted, he got mad skillz, but he is a poser with all that Kris the teacher BS.
First, it's Teacha, not Teacher. Theach(er) is racist.
Second, "don't get it twisted, he got mad skillz"...? And you're calling KRS One a poser? Or was that you trying to be sarcastic again?
Its not as funny when you have to explain the joke.
It's usually not a joke when you have to explain it.
I don't like hearing black people calling other black people Uncle Tom's, as if black people are supposed to act a certain way on account of their blackness.
You're not from their culture, their race, their streets, you don't know their struggle, what they have to fight against, rise up from, deal with on a daily basis... You may not like to hear it, but you don't understand it enough to judge it that way.
It's meant for a reason, a "don't forget where you and your people came from and struggled to acheive" thing to say, to remind those who think they've been accepted and have turned their back on their culture, streets and people.
That's how it was explained to me...
Race doesn't determine personality, culture and nature does.
For the most part, your culture is determined by your race. At least the culture you get raised in.
I'm cuban from Miami, Hialeah no less, you think I had a choice as to what culture I'd be influenced by?
He was making fun of the ignorance of the statement suggesting Libyans are blacks
Absolutely no such statement was suggested...at all. He clearly just has issue with a black person sending black troups to attack their motherland, regardless of what race, religion, color, etc. that particular country has in it. He never suggests Libyans are black, that's just your whiteness reading these words incorrectly.
Sounded to me like he was saying that KRS-ONE is still a good rapper regardless of his mantras on knowledge being overrated.
He is a fine MC, his flows are tight, he can battle like no one's business, he is the blastmasta, but when it comes to knowledge he is a little lacking.
You keep repeating that "I'm not understanding on purpose," but I do understand, I just disagree. It's my disagreement toward your position that you are having trouble accepting.
How would I know what the extent of KRS's knowledge on particular subjects are? Are you basing that on one lyric that you are digging deep on? How do you personally know how smart or intelligent he is?
The point you and CS initially made was that KRS thought Libyans were black. My only problem with what you both said was that he never suggested Libyans are black. And you could not have come to that conclusion from that one lyric, that's all I disagreed with. Even CS has admitted that KRS never suggested that. The lyric in question never makes any such suggestion.
Why do you keep contending that he did suggest that?
However, to your bigger point...
AE writes:
Still Libya is not the motherland for black people, and it never was. If you as a black man think all of africa is the motherland for all black people, then you should not have an alias that has anything to do with teacher or knowledge.
Do black people, when they mention the "motherland," exclude the non-black countries? I don't know. How would I know such a thing? I would have to know the opinion of every black person. But fuck, if that's how far you're digging in the lyrics...
Libya's in Africa, but a black man will lead a black man, to fight against his homeland
...then you're on your own. To me, the way I heard it, he was going for the symbolic affect of a black man sending troups to his homeland. He said it, he's black, therefore HE (KRS One) apparently feels some-kind of connection to all countries in Africa.
If you happen to disagree with how he feels, I don't really care. This is a personal disagreement you have with KRS One, not me. He apparently has a connection to all countries in Africa, you apparently don't think he should. Well, isn't that a huge who gives a fuck?
"YES Cuban-bee!--Samson Simpson" sry its to hard for me to resist quoting a favorite pothead movie.
Agreed! And that's also my favorite line.
My guess would be that you are raised by Roman Catholics, who are probably Republicans, well at least if your family was among those totally fucked by John F. Kennedy.
Well, they were truly screwed by Castro. Although my dad was fucked over during the Bay-o-Pigs, but that wasn't all JFK's fault...as my dad tells it.
Hispanic, Catholic, Republican: you should be on "OUR SIDE". Or are you just some sort of rebel, who like to go against his nature and culture?
I'm on the side of humans. I'm hispanic, yes. Catholic, no. Republican, I don't even know what that would require from me.
I'm not a rebel, just a free-thinker. But my point was, and you confirmed it, that you can, just by knowing where I'm from, know the culture that influenced me. Religion aside, because while I was raised Catholic, it never was a big deal, for many other issues I side very much with the opinions of many of my race. Granted, my generation, not the one who got here in the late 60's early 70's. And far less with those who got here in the 80's.
But there was no choice as to which culture would influence me, and being that 80% of my friends think the same, the culture had a lot to do with shaping their adult opinions.
then you should not have an alias that has anything to do with teacher or knowledge
I think that name of 'teacha' and that of 'dropin' knowledge' is given to him because, unlike almost all others in the hip hop world, he actually raps about social and political issues. You have to take his audience into consideration. A lot of kids from ghettos and poor neighborhoods have never even heard of Libya, or Colin Powell, so at least he brings these topics up in his music. He influences a lot of kids who would otherwise be oblivious to the problems of the world.
Now, to a kid from the suburbs, who goes to a good school and learns these subjects every day, sure, maybe KRS One isn't that impressive. But then again that isn't the audience he's trying to get at with his lyrics.
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