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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Your predicament reminds me of my friend Bob.
Let me tell you about my friend Bob. He goes about carrying a bust of Karl Marx in one hand, and a red flag in the other, and he always wears a Che Guevara t-shirt. And then people think that he's a communist. But in fact he despises communism, and is a hard-line capitalist of the Austrian School. And so Bob gets all upset that people think that he's a communist. Just because he goes about behaving like a communist of the deepest dye, people think that Bob is a communist. Now, I have tried suggesting to Bob that if he doesn't want people to think that he's a Marxist, maybe he should give up carrying that bust of Karl Marx everywhere he goes. But you will find his reply most sensible and cogent: he explains that it's the fault of the rest of the world if they infer that he's a Marxist. Shame on them.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Forgive me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it, in order for one to be racist/a statement to be racist the person/statement has to be prejudiced against or for a race, nothing else qualifys. Yes, that would be racism.
I find your summary insulting on a multitude of levels. None of which you are apparently willing to mention.
We are not all the same, to claim so is an ignorant proposal. And has nothing to do with what bluescat actually said.
Being 'color blind' is just another form if ignorance. And would also be another complete non sequitur. --- I'm guessing that since you are so angry and irrational and incoherent on the subject of race, you're a racist. 'Cos no-one but a racist needs to be so irrational and incoherent about this subject. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
There is a difference between identifying fallacies and randomly naming them, and I would commend this difference to your study.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
riVeRraT writes: And by the way, you have no right to call me a racist. You don't even know me, or have you provided any proof to back up your name calling. I think it is your own prejudice against believers that brings you to the name calling shit. Maybe the Priest abused you as a child, so now you take it out on every Christian? Doesn't that make you some kind of racist, or bigot minded? Were you molested by a rabbi? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
One of my favorite bumper stickers
Really? You must find being wrong peculiarly gratifying.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
So. The numbers do not lie. while a high percentage of blacks (B%) may not be the reason for crime and danger to exist in these places, and I am sure there are other factors involved, B% could still be a barometer as to where common problems of danger exist in other areas of similar culture (USA, Mexico, Canada, The Caribbean). On the other hand I could be completely incorrect, it could be a false observation, and there could be places that do not fit and break this model. the main problem is that those who disagree with me, can only call me names and tell me how wrong I am, but can bring no evidence of places that have a high B% that are nice and safe, and somewhere anyone may want to go. Well, this is hardly a secret. The map below shows the intention homicide rate per 100,000 (darker blue is higher; gray means figures are not available).
You're twice as likely to get murdered in Russia (B% ≈ 0.05%) than Barbados (B% ≈ 90%). Of course, your idea of "somewhere anyone may want to go" may differ from mine, but I'd rather be in Barbados.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The whole video revealed the opposite of what they said about her supposed racism. Well of course when they said she was a "racist" they meant that she was "a conservative winning an argument with a liberal". Don't you ever read right-wing bumper stickers?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I am not really sure why you chose a Choropleth map to illustrate your point though. Because it was there.
It is inappropriate to show the whole of Russia in a Choropleth map where the data is based on per 100,000 people because there are vast portions of Russia that are basically uninhabited. And your statistics about American cities didn't break it down street by street. So? We were asked for data about countries.
Also this data focuses on murder only, where my data was on an index of multiple crimes (Murder, Rape, Assault, Battery, etc.). Again, it's what I could find with a quick look round.
Once again I do not see it. In the map you gave, Barbados and Russia are the same color ... Yeah, blue. But they're not the same shade of blue. Barbados is actually the same shade as the USA (I just copied the map into MS Paint and checked). I based my assertion on looking up the figures for Russia and Barbados directly, rather than reading them off the map. Russia, 14.9/100,000; Barbados, 7.49/100,000. That's not the only reason I'd rather be in Barbados.
And since you gave only a map but no links it s hard to deduce much from it. Have some figures.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
That Semetic people have 'always' been classified as Caucasian is false. Of course Semetic people are classed as white. Why else do people refer to Arabs as "sand crackers"?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
It is very odd to me that all these cultures and peoples and races, and nationalities can get thier shit together except one. Russians? Yeah, their country is a bit of a crock, isn't it? --- Shall we compare statistics for crime and health and literacy and life expectancy and so forth between black Barbadians and black Americans? I can assure you that the black Barbadians are getting the better end of the deal. How are we to account for the difference? The Barbadians live on a tiny impotent island with an economy founded on tourism and sugar cane ... in a nation that's 90% black. The black Americans live in the world's only superpower and the richest nation in the world ... and have the supreme privilege of living with the elevating and ennobling influence of us white folk, who are always so solicitous for their well-being. How, then, shall we account for the differences between them? It's not their ancestry or their skin color, which are the same, and evidently it's not the difference between affluence and (comparitive) poverty. Damn, what is that elusive factor that makes all the difference? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Young black men have a higher rate of aids than any other group (iirc). If some girl takes that fact and decides to avoid sex with young black men, is she being racist? Or is she taking care based on factual information? She's being racist. If she was in a hypothetical situation where she had to have unprotected sex with one of two men and the only information she was given about them was their skin color, then it would be a safer bet to choose the one who wasn't black, and one could find no fault with her. But in real life, no-one is obliged to judge people using their only their skin color as a proxy for the more relevant information which is in fact available to them. If an employer hires only Asian employees because on average they get better test scores, is that racist? Yes. Because he could look at the actual test scores. Which would not only be fairer to the workers, but would also result in a better qualified pool of employees. In real life, we always have the option of judging people: "not [...] by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"; which is not only fairer to them but also more advantageous to us. Anyone looking for an excuse not to do so is indeed being racist, not to mention stupid.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The cop made her apologize for touching my mailbox. She found out the hard way that is a federal offense. It's a federal offense to put mail in someone's mailbox? Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I don't think avoiding sex with a black person because they are roughly 7 times more likely to give you hiv is an unreasonable position. That's some reasonable racism for ya! Also, since men are twenty times more likely to be serial killers than women, avoiding any contact of any sort with men is also the reasonable way to go. Assuming you don't want to murdered by a blood-crazed cannibal.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Well, there is a difference, no? You're not saying that avoiding sex with someone is the same as avoiding contact with them, are you? Surely, we can see that avoiding contact with all white men would be much different that avoinding sex with black ones, can't we? I'm planning to join a lesbian commune. I may have to lie a little on the application form. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I see. From your link:
I did not know this. I wanted to check on it because my kids found 2 puppies and wanted to let neighbors know with a small (1/5 page) flyer so someone will claim them. A lady told them this was illegal and now my kids are freaked out. Someone should call the FBI and have them arrest the kids. And, if possible, the puppies, I bet they were in on it somehow. Both small children and puppydogs have big cute eyes ... you can't trust people like that.
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