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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
There is a trend in making jokes about it, but surely there is nothing remotely factual about blondes being dumb, right? I tend to think that stereotypes exist for a reason...
People are dumb, sometimes. Sometimes people have blond hair. That's about it, right? Blonde chicks generally seem to be dumber to me.
If she was really taking care of herself she would use a condom for ANY sexual partner, Wait, if you knew someone had aids, would you have sex with them anyways if you were wearing a condom?
why signal out one race as a higher risk when having unprotected sex places one in the highest risk? Because that one race has a higher prevalence of aids... CDC - Page Not Found
quote: I would say she was being very ignorant if Ignorant? Ignorant of what? Or are you using the term like Michael Jackson used to?
I would say she was being very ignorant if she didn't have sex with black men just because that race has a high risk of HIV. Well, maybe she has a really small vagina too
It's actually highest amongst poor people. So a black kid from a rich family is less of a risk than a white kid from a poor family.
Source?
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3122 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
all you asked is for one example of how whites and black are different outside of "My" arbitrary opinion. I gave you one, with Scientific evidence to back it up... Give me a fucking break AE. I ask you for an example of what significantly differentiates white from black people and you show me a scientific article that indicates that 50-80,000 years ago Neandethals interbred more with Eurasians than with people from sub-saharan Africa. What the heck does this have to with blacks being 'unable to get their shit together'. You still have not been able to logically connect the dots. It is painfully obvious from your remarks about not wanting to be near black people that you think there is something inherently wrong with 'black people'. Or are you going to acknowledge the truth that non-'black' people have as many hang-ups and issues that 'black' people do and it has nothing to do with the color of someones skin. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3122 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
why signal out one race as a higher risk when having unprotected sex places one in the highest risk? Because that one race has a higher prevalence of aids... You are running an extremely high risk of getting infected with AIDS whenever you have unprotected sex outside a monogomous relationship and/or with multipiple partners, so what difference does it make where you obtained AIDS from. African-Americans make up 51% of the AIDs infenctions, but there is still another 49% of non-African American partners that you can obtain AIDS from. Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
You are running an extremely high risk of getting infected with AIDS whenever you have unprotected sex outside a monogomous relationship and/or with multipiple partners, so what difference does it make where you obtained AIDS from. African-Americans make up 51% of the AIDs infenctions, but there is still another 49% of non-African American partners that you can obtain AIDS from. There approximantely 1.2 million, out of 310 million total, people with hiv. So 0.387% Of that 1.2 million, 48% are black, or 576,000. Blacks are 12% of the population, so 37,200,000. That's 1.55% having hiv. For non-blacks, 51% hiv carriers is 624,000 people. Out of the remaining 272,800,000 is 0.229%. That means that having sex with a black person puts you at 6.77 times as likely to get hiv than with a non-black person. Data | Be in the KNOW for percentages. 1.2 mil and 310 mil came from google. I don't think avoiding sex with a black person because they are roughly 7 times more likely to give you hiv is an unreasonable position. That's some reasonable racism for ya! Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2972 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
I tend to think that stereotypes exist for a reason... Yes, and my reason was pretty on point, "People made this shit up."
Blonde chicks generally seem to be dumber to me. Interesting... Could this have anything to do with people making jokes about them? Polish people seem dumber to me, they did ever since I was a kid and heard jokes about them. But honestly, I probably haven't met many polish people. But it still seems that way...
Wait, if you knew someone had aids, would you have sex with them anyways if you were wearing a condom? No. But that has nothing to do with what you said. She just knew the person was black. If the person was Asian, or hispanic, or black, it's best for her to ask they wear a condom.
Ignorant? Ignorant of what? Or are you using the term like Michael Jackson used to? I laugh every time I think about that. All I'm saying is, if she's just judging by skin color she is being quite ignorant, and possibly can be seen as racist.
Well, maybe she has a really small vagina too Ah, they dreaded white girl syndrome.
Source? In US cities, HIV linked more to poverty than race.
quote: This proves it, DON'T FUCK THE POOR! - Oni
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Catholic Scientist writes:
A blonde chick was walking down the street when she noticed two guys staring up at a flagpole, so she asked them what was up. Blonde chicks generally seem to be dumber to me. One of them said, "Our boss wants us to measure the height of this flagpole but we can't figure out how to reach the top." The blonde chick took a quick glance at the flagpole, then reached into her purse and took out a wrench. She undid one bolt at the bottom and loosened the other, then she carefully lowered the flagpole to the ground. She took a tape measure out of her purse and measured it. "Thirty-two feet." The two guys looked at each other and shook their heads. "Typical dumb blonde. We ask her for the height and she gives us the length." Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Yes, and my reason was pretty on point, "People made this shit up." Did they? I dunno man, I still think blonde chicks generally really are dumber.
Could this have anything to do with people making jokes about them? I suppose it could. Too, poeple could be making jokes about them because they are dumber. Lets flip a coin.
Polish people seem dumber to me, they did ever since I was a kid and heard jokes about them. But honestly, I probably haven't met many polish people. But it still seems that way... I haven't met enough polish poeple to get a sense of if they are dumber or not.
No. But that has nothing to do with what you said. I'm sorry, I was realizing that it was a totally seperate question. That's why I said "wait". Like, stop for a sec cause Imma say something unrealated. But then also, your statement didn't really answer my question in the first place. I'd be like if I asked which car is safer when you're not wearing a seatbelt and you told me that the safest bet would be to wear a seatbelt
I laugh every time I think about that. All I'm saying is, if she's just judging by skin color she is being quite ignorant,
Ignorant of what!? What knowledge is she lacking?
and possibly can be seen as racist. You can possibly be seen as racist for less. But the fact remains that if you have sex with black person then you're roughly 7 times as likely to get hiv than if it was a non-black person. That's some reasonable racism.
This proves it, DON'T FUCK THE POOR! Yeah, but that was for the inner-city. I try not to go in there regardless. Too many black people.... I kid, I kid!
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Meh.
Good to see you back, Ringo. I've been reading your posts and you still got it!
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes:
And I'm a blond. I've been reading your posts and you still got it! Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Catholic Scientist writes:
And I'm a blond.
I've been reading your posts and you still got it! So am I! Blue eyes n'erythang.
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3122 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
The chances of contracting AIDs in the US through vaginal sex is 1 in 100,000. Times that by six and it is 6 in 100,000. Not a whole lot of difference. Anal sex increases this risk quite considerably though.
You making this into a racial thing shows your bigotry and your ignorance. The issue is not race. If you are playing with fire, whether it comes from a match or a lighter, there is still the chance that you can burn the house down. In other words, if you are having unprotected sex outside a monogomous relationship and/or with multiple partners you run the risk of contracting AIDS, whether the risk from your partner(s) having HIV is 1.5% or 0.23%. The more unprotected sex with different partners whether they black or white, the greater the risk. Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I don't think avoiding sex with a black person because they are roughly 7 times more likely to give you hiv is an unreasonable position. That's some reasonable racism for ya! Also, since men are twenty times more likely to be serial killers than women, avoiding any contact of any sort with men is also the reasonable way to go. Assuming you don't want to murdered by a blood-crazed cannibal.
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3122 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes: That's some reasonable racism for ya! Give me a fucking break. According to the Survey of Inmates of State Correctional Facilities by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race. Also nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married. So I guess we need to keep all children away from white, married men. Also, most serial killers are white men. Shows how idiotic it is to stereotype people no matter what color or sex they are. You cannot use race, color, ethnicity, age or any other non-relavent factor to stereotype people. Because #1 very rarely are stereotypes accurate and #2 individuals are not very predictable. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3797 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
But the "those that carry" could then have further evolved and now be classified into more races so you could actually have more than two. First, my reply to AE was pointing out that it is sub-saharan migrants who first encountered and possibly interbred with the neanderthals and NOT europeans and asians. Secondly that when asked for genetic differences between 'blacks and whites', he pointed to a paper which he apparently either didn't comprehend or didn't read because it doesn't say what he thinks it says. The possible interbreeding occured in the middle east and possibly as Homo Sapiens migrated into Europe, and there is no indication it happened in asia (Neanderthal populations did not extend into asia.) As far as your point, I have to ask why you think evolution stopped in Africa but continued in Europe and Asia? I mean, if we are going to follow your logic, what you are basically saying is that people of African descent stopped evolving 50,000 years ago, and it is the people of European and Asian descent who continued evolving. Which isn’t much different than calling people from Africa — Barbarians or Backwords or less developed than the rest of the world (Something that the colonial countries used as an excuse to exploit, steal, rape and murder). Which really just ignores the real crux of the problem. The problem that you don’t seem to understand. And that is the simple, undeniable fact that race does not exist! It is made up! Arbitrary!
Regardless of whether we can legitamately assign traits to races or not, the races are still there. Huh? Regardless of whether there is evidence the pink unicorn exists, it is STILL there....?
And further, with genetic evidence, we should be able to determine if the person has the allele(s) for blonde hair, and it just turns out to be fairly dark, or if they have the brown one(s), and they happen to be light. So even if we can't determine it just by looking at the color with our eyes, that doesn't mean that there isn't a distinction there. If you were to gather all the data that you believe classifies people into race and draw them onto a contour map, you're going to find something interesting. And that is that there are NO sharp boundaries between groups. The gradients will be relatively smooth and roughly evenly spaced. You can not get a reasonable and natural classification of human populations with any classification scheme. The reason why you have some people arguing for 3 distinct races and others for more is that they use different classification criteria based on different characteristics they consider important. What they get are different groupings for the same people. It's arbitrary! Let me ask you this. Where would you classify the Australian Aboriginal people? With the Kung! or with people from SE asia? Why?
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
I don't think avoiding sex with a black person because they are roughly 7 times more likely to give you hiv is an unreasonable position. That's some reasonable racism for ya! Also, since men are twenty times more likely to be serial killers than women, avoiding any contact of any sort with men is also the reasonable way to go. Assuming you don't want to murdered by a blood-crazed cannibal.
Well, there is a difference, no? You're not saying that avoiding sex with someone is the same as avoiding contact with them, are you? Surely, we can see that avoiding contact with all white men would be much different that avoinding sex with black ones, can't we?
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