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The Problem with Legalized Abortion

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bluescat48
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Message 5 of 293 (442662)
12-22-2007 8:21 AM 		Reply to: Message 4 by nator
12-22-2007 7:53 AM

Because the reality is that people, especially young people, have sex. Why religious conservatives think that keeping kids ignorant of contraception methods and making it difficult for people to get contraceptives somehow is effective in preventing unwanted pregnancy, I have no idea.
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If they really, truly cared about preventing abortion, then they should be willing to deal with the reality of people having sex.
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excellent point.
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Message 127 of 293 (443932)
12-27-2007 3:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 126 by LinearAq
12-27-2007 3:32 PM

why do you think there's been so little research on male contraception, and that we still don't have a male birth control pill, and that men are so reluctant to use condoms? because it's her problem. it's always been her problem. well. when her problem results in a child, it shouldn't continue to be her problem.
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I don't know why there has been "so little research" on male contraception. Perhaps you have a theory? Perhaps you can show me how little research there is on this in comparison with the massive research being done on female contraception?
No male birth control pill because it is more difficult to develop? I don't know and I'd bet you don't either.
Men don't like condoms because of supposed lack of feeling during intercourse. I don't have any experience with them.
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When two people decide to have sex and the woman gets pregnant the man should share in the responsibility.
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The reason is
it's always been her problem.
male ego and the idiotic biblical passage about a wife. Gen3:16
your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you
ESV
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Message 137 of 293 (443958)
12-27-2007 4:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 130 by LinearAq
12-27-2007 3:54 PM

How much more research is done on women's contraceptives than men's?
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Probably most of it, I have yet to see anything about research into male contraceptives.
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12-27-2007 7:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 147 by ringo
12-27-2007 5:49 PM

Re: MB sees what she wants to see
That's what I'm saying. Either way the law has to change. If you succeed in making all abortions illegal, the next logical step is to give every fetus full citizenship from conception. So why not change that law instead of the abortion laws? Granting full citizenship at conception would automatically short-circuit any future attempts to kill those precious citizens.
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So suppose a law is passed confirming citizenship on a fetus, what happens if a woman miscarries? Does she get charged with manslaughter?
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Message 150 of 293 (444012)
12-27-2007 8:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 149 by ringo
12-27-2007 7:56 PM

Re: MB sees what she wants to see
good point
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Message 155 of 293 (444084)
12-28-2007 9:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 152 by nator
12-28-2007 7:06 AM

Re: religiously-based laws are not good
That's just the point. The whole idea is stupid.
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