New Pope Thread

Out of touch could be a screen for "not agreeing with us that sin is good" and thereby following the sinful, by obeying what their sins demand.Basically, you're asking biblicans to endorse sin, by saying "get with the times". How ironic. You're saying it's the fault of those who are celibate that human population is up? Lol. Maybe if people obeyed the bible, there wouldn't be a problem.That's fallacious Shraff girly, the real problem is that people are going against what God says, NOT the the fault of those who in this instance, DO as God says.Oh how typical, "hey celibate Pope dude, it's your fault there's babies, because we can't stop shagging". Oh yeah Shraff, there's a logic in there somewhere, but mikey just can't find it.

That's the worldly offering ofcourse, but the real solution is always found in God. Obeying the scriptures removes the cause AND stops the problem. That's 2-1 to Yahweh. Who do they dictate to? Atheists aswell? Why is it only "families" you mention? Or "males"? You mentioned catholic celibate males (pope and such). I wondered why you think it's their sin? They might dictate certain things but they are not the cause of the problem. You don't get to decide what isn't sin. The bible says which is sin, and if anyone disagress it's irrelevant, as there would be no problem if everyone followed what God says to do. This is just a stumbling block for mikey.Why, there wouldn't be 60 in one house if us westerners didn't have a house each.

Too late, mike's omni-eyes read it. It's okay Charles, you shouldn't have deleted it. Maybe I was a bit mis-representative of what she said. Sorry if I was a bit naughty but Shraff knows I put a certain mikey-spin on things that make them think.This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-22-2005 09:26 AM

I think she'll apreciate you pouncing to her cause, which is a just effort because Shraff is a goodly one. This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-22-2005 09:41 AM

Okay, I'll admitt you've convinced me a bit. True, the bible doesn't dictate these things.I just think those catholic cardinals who genuinely are celibate etc, aren't really guilty of over-population. I just don't think they're to blame on that basis. They most certainly are not better than you, nor will their pomp or words make them. Please don't think I am for their cause, I just initially thought you were targeting a sect of religious people for this problem. I apologize if I have misconstrued what you meant.You are correct, that they THINK they decide what sins are etc.. But in reality none of us decide, because what God says is a sin (against his will), is a sin. So, you win that point, in that this "issue" isn't really mentioned biblically so I have to be honest, and admitt that it is almost opinion versus opinion, YET I think God, as ever, can solve the problem and told us what to do in order to not get the problem, by advising our ways, pertaining to life. the fruit of our doings are now what we see prevail. If we don't do it God's way then we receive the reward. According to them, but as I said earlier, I think only Christ gets to tell us what sin is and I stand by that. We are all sinful according to Christ. I wouldn't know. I just thought you were saying that the pope and his men should say "yes, yes, fornicate by all means, but with condoms on". Can you see how that might make their position a bit odd pertaining to who they're supposed to be? I think me and the catholic are both Christians, and even if we are strongly FOR things or against, we can't play fast and loose with scripture when it suits.Now if it was up to me, then certain ppl here would go to heaven. IT ISN't = mike's opinion is irrelevant when God decides. It's like when Percy ridded Buz, I sought to say how it was wrong IMHO yet I respected the fact that Percy is the boss and therefore I don't decide what is sin at the site, even if I think I do.