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Mammuthus
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Message 12 of 106 (200606)
04-20-2005 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by crashfrog
04-20-2005 12:06 AM


Not only did he not come out of nowhere, but the late pope stuffed the college of cardinals with his own picks so that only a few were not selected by him and thus he could push his friend Ratzinger through. Ratzinger is if anything more conservative than John Paul was so it was clear he would be selected by the now overwhelmingly conservative college. Ironically, there are a lot of rumors in bavaria that he is also a homosexual i.e. I have heard him called "sister ratsy". So the church has its first homosexual pope who was once a nazi. Nice to see the church becoming so inclusive
Many Germans I have heard interviewed are appalled by the selection. I think it is great. I hope he alienates so many people that they wake up and start thinking for themselves rather than basing their lives on the superstitions and dogma of a group of angry rich old men.

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Mammuthus
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Message 15 of 106 (200632)
04-20-2005 4:56 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Dr Jack
04-20-2005 4:36 AM


quote:
know the whole nazi thing is a bit unfair;
why unfair? There were plenty of Germans who at risk to their own lives defied the nazi party when it was in power including leaving the party! If he is to be such a "moral" beacon, why should this failure be glossed over? Also, if it turns out that he really is homosexual, how can he as a professed conservative rail against homosexuals as morally deficient without being a complete hypocrite?
Every secular leader has their character, behavior, choices and past scrutinized...why shouldnt the professed middle man between the Xian god and his followers be exempt?
I think his selection epitomizes the hypocrisy and absolute ethical vacuum of the church and thus he is the perfect representative.

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Mammuthus
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Message 18 of 106 (200652)
04-20-2005 7:23 AM
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04-20-2005 5:40 AM


I don't agree with that premise. You are responsible for what you did when you were a teenager as well. Otherwise, you could just murder and rape at will, hide out until you were older and say that you should not be held accountable for your behavior. It might work for Pinochet and other powerful political/religious figures but it does not mean that it should.

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