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Willowtree's Scientific Evidence against Evolution

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Asgara
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Message 62 of 299 (74469)
12-20-2003 7:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 61 by truthlover
12-20-2003 7:06 PM

Ah TL, our very own voice of reason. Willowtree has a habit of offering "evidence", making assertions and then claiming bias if people ask for this evidence.
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The only "evidence" ever offered has been quotes by Milton and Gene Scott. At one point, he offered temper tantrums in two different threads concerning a topic title change, and, like this one, a problem with others using his sn in a title in an attempt to alert him that the topic was directed towards him.
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Asgara
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Message 68 of 299 (74503)
12-20-2003 10:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 66 by Cold Foreign Object
12-20-2003 10:23 PM

Please cite where TL has been hypocritical.
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You are also massively ignorant concerning the rules of debate. Certain things must be assumed or debate cannot take place.
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This is not a formal debate setting. Things cannot be assumed to be true if one side unquestionably disagrees with that which you want assumed. The FACT that many here consider themselves theistic evolutionists makes your assumption untenable.
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Can we get back on target? All are still waiting for your evidence, personal opinion and quotes are NOT evidence.
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Message 73 of 299 (74556)
12-21-2003 1:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 68 by Asgara
12-20-2003 10:45 PM

Just for general info on debate I started this thread so as not to clutter up this topic.
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http://EvC Forum: Rules of Debate -->EvC Forum: Rules of Debate
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12-29-2003 9:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 103 by Light
12-29-2003 9:00 PM

Thank you so much for your posts Light, you chose your screen name wisely. Christianity would be in a much stronger position in the world if more people were as enlightened as you and TruthLover. More people have "left the fold" when expected to turn off their brain to believe, than have ever been "saved" by creationism.
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Willow has been claiming on many threads that evolution = atheism. He then changed to discussing his version of "scientism", a branch of science that outright claims the non-existance of god, and says he is addressing those that support scientism only. My question would be why is he posting here as no one that I've seen is positing such a position on this forum.
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01-06-2004 11:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 134 by Cold Foreign Object
01-06-2004 10:57 PM

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What else does Ned need to do to cover the burden of proof that you say is on him. Milton made a claim that has been shown to be patently false. The skulls are no where near "identical".
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I am assuming that the drawings in Milton's book make the case for "virtually identical". If this wasn't deliberate, then why use drawings when photographs are readily available. Is is possibly because the photographs do not show what is being claimed?
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01-06-2004 11:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 136 by Cold Foreign Object
01-06-2004 11:15 PM

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I believe the fair way to resolve this is to look at the photographs and links that were offered you in the original thread
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The Thylacine Museum - A Natural History of the Tasmanian Tiger
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In the original thread,
http://EvC Forum: Some Evidence Against Evolution
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you quote milton
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The Tasmanian marsupial wolf is a virtual carbon copy of the European timber wolf. The marsupial flying phalanger is practically identical to the placental flying squirrel, as are the marsupial jerboa and the placental jerboa. When the skulls of the two wolves are placed side by side, it would take an experienced professional zoologist to tell them apart.
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I may be wrong, someone correct me if I am, but I don't remember you ever really answering anyone concerning Milton's claims in the original thread. Your claims changed from virtually identical to vastly similar and then you basically call off the exchange with Ned there.
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http://EvC Forum: Some Evidence Against Evolution
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You also continue with your claim that evolution = atheism.
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I believe you HAVE been given a proponderance of evidence but are deliberately choosing to ignore it.
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Asgara
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Asgara
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02-01-2004 7:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 198 by crashfrog
02-01-2004 7:27 PM

Me thinks WT is actually pulling the ol' "If they're not for us they're against us" routine. By virtue of mn NOT including anything concerning god it automatically is discluding him/her. That must make it extremely easy to debate..."the fact that you don't agree with me means you are anti-god".
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02-12-2004 11:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 260 by Cold Foreign Object
02-12-2004 11:05 PM

Ah...Pyramidology, Adam Rutherford...
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shades of Von Daniken and Velikovsky.
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Anyone else think it's funny? first we have our new little friend waiting on the aliens from Nabiru, on the outskirts of the solar system, and now WT is espousing pyramidology.
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Asgara
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