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Author Topic:   Willowtree's Scientific Evidence against Evolution
Garf
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Message 285 of 299 (87937)
02-22-2004 12:51 AM


Hi, I'm kind of new here but I went ahead and skimmed this post.
Here's a quote that caught my eye, from WILLOWTREE:
For thousands and thousands of years, billions and billions of people were all wrong, mistaken, or deceived. That is the MESSAGE contained in the philosophy that the scientific evidence of evolution rests in.
We are to believe that the interpretation of scientific evidence by neo-Darwinists cancels out the beliefs of every generation of man that held God created what is made.
"For thousands and thousands of years, billions and billions of people," haven't believed in Christianity, and the majority of the world still doesn't. So does this automatically make Christianity wrong? Based on just that, no. Reason being is that the validity of something should not rest on how many people believe it or for how long; it rests on the evidence acquired and how well it stands against scrutiny.
For thousands of years before the Greeks people may have believed the earth was flat and that the sun moved. That doesn't mean they're right. As humans advanced further and came up with new instruments or new discoveries never previously used they were able to figure out that the people of the past were wrong. So it's not that the people who thought the world was flat and that the sun moved were deceived, it's that they simply didn't have the right instruments or discoveries at the time to give a better answer.
(EDIT)
Also, I'm not sure if you were implying that The Theory of Evolution is trying to disprove the existence of God or not. If you are you might want to read more on Evolution as God can still exist even with existence of Evolution. Reason being is that Evolution says nothing of how life began and life could have still been "created" by God. The argument against this is abiogensis, so that's what you'd need to argue against.
However, you do state that Evolution disproves Genesis from The Bible. If you read it as literal then you are correct, it does (Though not purposefully). Of course that does not mean it disproves a creator at all since Christianity is not the only religion that says there is a creator. It would merely find a scientific fallacy in the Bible. Of course this is then assuming that you believe if Genesis is proved wrong (Or that it must be taken literally) then the entirety of Christianity must be wrong, not everyone believes that.
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G'luck
[This message has been edited by Garf, 02-22-2004]

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Garf
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Message 288 of 299 (88018)
02-22-2004 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by Cold Foreign Object
02-22-2004 5:36 PM


Concerning the quote you cut and pasted, then concerning your coments about this quote : Where did I mention christianity ? You assumed christianity, thanks for the accuracy.
I believe you miss-read what I said.
I'm not inferring you mentioned Christianity; I'm using it as an example as to why we can't automatically assume something is wrong on the basis of how many people believe in it or for how long.
My example is meant to show that one could not simply say that because billions and billions of people for thousands and thousands of years believe something doesn't mean they are right. As my example showed we could not say, for instance, Christianity is wrong because billions and billions of people for thousands and thousands of years didn't believe it. In the same way we can not say that evolution is wrong simply because billions and billions of people didn't believe it for thousands and thousands of years.
If you don't like this example I provided another one as well when I used the belief of the earth being flat and the sun moving. As new instruments are invented and new discoveries made the ideas of the past are sometimes shown to be wrong no matter how many people believed it or for how long.
I hope this clears up any confusion you have with my comments.
G'luck

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