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Author Topic:   The Chicken And Egg Problem, this problem refers to all species
NosyNed
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Message 21 of 43 (207276)
05-12-2005 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Nitai
05-11-2005 10:54 PM


Water soluable??
So, in the very beginning there was no any membrane and thus the poor living entity would just dissolve in the water?
Why on earth would you say that? The embryos of many creatures develop in what is mostly water. Living things are not water soluable in general. They do have to manage the balance between water inside cells and outside but that has nothing to do with a membrane around the embryo as a whole.
You might do well to be less firm in your utterances when you apparently know little about the subject at hand.

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NosyNed
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Message 22 of 43 (207280)
05-12-2005 1:04 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Nitai
05-12-2005 12:35 AM


Development of a tadpole
So, what would be the advantage of tadpole or any similar type of living entity to develop first a kind of membrane and then egg-shell?
Do you happen to know one big difference between the reptiles and amphibians? That is part of the answer to the above. Initially it is necessary that a food supply be kept with the developing embryo.
Moreover, as long as you don't give me the exact detailed scheme of genetic transformations that show the evolution and then demostrate this in the laboratory I don't see any reason to accept your wishful hypothesis based on comparition of similarities of different species
A very strong hint that you have made up your mind and are not going to listen to what you are told. Could you explain why someone should take the time to answer your questions? If you will only accept information that is very unlikely to be available why bother discussing things here?
Since there are extant animals with various stages of development of eggs we can, in some sense, "see" the development.
Other problem with your example is that tadpole is already quite developed and so doesn't need any shell. And if you see the substance of an egg, take it out and put it in the water - no any chicken will develop in that way and you will be hungry too. What a big loss.
Don't try to be funny until you have developed a bit of credibility here. Just what does the comment about the "substance of an egg" have to do with anything?
You do know that the tadpole is a late stage in the gestation don't you? It doesn't start out that way.
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