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Archer Opteryx
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Message 8 of 303 (367155)
11-30-2006 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by arachnophilia
11-30-2006 3:50 AM


True. When Yeshua said 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind,' and 'Love your neighbor as yourself,' he was quoting. Both statements had already long been canonized.
Neither did he invent the idea of quoting the two as a summary of the Law and Prophets. The idea of 'the greatest commandment'--or 'how to recite the complete body of Scripture while standing on one foot'--had already been much discussed among rabbis. This formulation is attributed to a teacher--Hillel, if memory serves--who lived before Yeshua.
'Love your enemies', though, is different. That's original with Yeshua by all accounts and, even today, radical. Still, the idea just carries forward the instruction to love one's neighbor. Yeshua just includes our enemies among our neighbors.
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 200 of 303 (373762)
01-02-2007 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by iceage
01-01-2007 9:32 PM


Masada = Last Days
A couple of items for the mix.
First: The expression 'last days'--depending on who is talking--often alludes to the last days of Jerusalem, the Temple, and the national identity and worship structures built around them. The end of Temple worship would not be, in their minds, a completely separate event from the more apocalyptic one we tend to think of--the total end of everything. They saw the Jerusalem apocalypse as a harbinger of the global one, the begining of the end. It tends to be a question of focus.
Temple worship is the subject of the book of Hebrews. The author argues that Temple worship and animal sacrifices are no longer needed. The identity of the author of Hebrews, by the way, is not known.
Second: scholars note that the Pastoral epistles (1&2 Timothy, Titus) reflect a later age. Many do not believe Paul wrote them. The style and outlook are different in many ways from the known Pauline epistles. Paul, for example, expected some in his generation would live until Christ returned. The author of the Pastoral epistles, as has been shown, hedges a bit. Maybe, he suggests, young Timothy will live to see it.
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