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Message 1 of 63 (451325)
01-27-2008 9:24 AM


Does Eve know God more than Adam?
Genesis tells us that to know good and evil is to know God.
To be as Gods, knowing good and evil.
Since Eve received the first lesson, does this mean that she learned faster than Adam?
Could this be why today, there are more men studying religion than women?
Men rule the world and make it an ugly place. Would women, because they know more of God than men, do a better job of ruling?
Is it just because we are physically stronger than women, that we rule or is it women that have not exercised their greater wisdom and taken control?
In one sense we are all trained by women, at least when young children. Why do they stop teaching us?
Would it be better if they did not stop or is it a case of them not doing a good job with the young and reaping the ugly result later?
I am rather confused by the whole thing and need enlightenment.
Who is closer to God?
Who should lead?
Who is better suited to lead?
Do men have more to learn and is this why most posters and searchers here are men?
Regards
DL

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Message 4 of 63 (451370)
01-27-2008 1:41 PM
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01-27-2008 1:02 PM


Re: Unanswerable Questions
I was hoping someone did.
You assume that women are not closer to God than we are. Why then do they not seek as hard as men.
Regards
DL

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Message 6 of 63 (451428)
01-27-2008 5:09 PM
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01-27-2008 4:36 PM


Re: Unanswerable Questions
Just the fact that we usually seek what we do not have.
Men seek what they lack. Woman does not seek what she has.
Sounds logical to me.
regards
DL

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Message 8 of 63 (452448)
01-30-2008 12:03 PM
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01-29-2008 6:48 PM


Genesis 3-22 but you may want to read all of Genesis.
If you cannot or do not understand the beginning then it is hard to get the rest straight.
Regards
DL

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Message 11 of 63 (452717)
01-31-2008 7:14 AM
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01-31-2008 3:36 AM


If God is everywhere then He cannot distance himself from us.
As to knowing good and evil, God creates our souls and natures perfect for His needs. All get to heaven so all will at some point in time know all that is required.
If we are all to become as Gods then we know we will not be identical. We all evolve at different rates.
Regards
DL

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Message 14 of 63 (453038)
02-01-2008 9:41 AM
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02-01-2008 9:22 AM


Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
We are all His works. All perfect.
I do not read the Bible literally but this has to be a logical attribute to give God.
If we do not then it would mean that the God followed is imperfect and does imperfect works.
If we are all created imperfect then God would be the one to blame for any and all evil things that we do.
If we have free will then we must take responsibility for our own actions.
Regards
DL

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Message 17 of 63 (453078)
02-01-2008 11:26 AM
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02-01-2008 10:27 AM


Jaywill
You wrote
“I let the Bible guide my logic.”
Is the talking snake logical?
I prefer to let logic guide me. God must think logically.
You wrote
“But if you cherry pick those passages only which reinforce what you hold as pre-conceived beliefs, aren't you concerned that you will get a skewed picture of God?”
I can’t preconceive anything until I read it. Only after reading can I see if or where it fits.
You wrote
“I wish you would open up and consider that what else the Bible says is also important.”
Who says that I am not open and what important facts are you referring to?
Show where I have a closed mind.
You wrote
“ I suggest you try to prayerfully say "Amen" to all that the Bible says for one week.”
Like here?
Deut21-18
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
I will let you Amen this. Not me thanks.
Regards
DL
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Message 20 of 63 (453362)
02-01-2008 11:18 PM
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02-01-2008 6:40 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Stand in your church some time and read that scripture and ask for an amen and see what kind of reaction you get. You may want to bring a stone or two for others to use on you.
Only a fool reads the Bible literally and thinks that word written by men are writen by God. Constantine would laugh at you as he rejects the other books that were in the initial selection.
Regards
DL

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Message 22 of 63 (454697)
02-08-2008 10:17 AM
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02-08-2008 10:09 AM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
If God wanted us to believe in miracles then He would have left an example for us to view and ponder. He did not.
Why not? It would sure make believers out of many.
IE when He parted the sea He could have left it that way and found some other way to kill them pesky Egyptians.
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DL

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Message 24 of 63 (454726)
02-08-2008 12:53 PM
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02-08-2008 10:29 AM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Constantine would be pleased that you think that the books he selected for inclusion in the Bible made you think they came from God.
I don,t know why any would reject the true God to follow a jesus made into a hybrid God/man.
We all are destined to bask in the light of God. not have to stay in the shadow of some hybrid.
Jesus was a great prophet and Rabbi, nothing else. To say He was divine insults both him and God. God does not practice bestiality with someone elses wife.
Regards
DL

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Message 27 of 63 (455847)
02-14-2008 6:52 AM
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02-13-2008 9:02 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
If Jesus is god then He sure wasted His time on earth. Nothing changed with His presence except for those who say they follow Him and have no clue as to where they are going.
As a prophet He gave us things to think about but He has no authority to place himself between God and His souls.
We all have to pay our own debts. Would you pay someone else's debts and let them off the hook.
Regards
DL

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Message 28 of 63 (455848)
02-14-2008 6:55 AM
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02-13-2008 9:07 PM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Good news? Many words and no substance.
Regards
DL

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Message 31 of 63 (455858)
02-14-2008 9:10 AM
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Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
No. True forgivness is to forgive all people. Not just those who will follow.
To forgive those that died before Jesus was born would have been the way as well.
Regards
DL

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Message 33 of 63 (455860)
02-14-2008 9:38 AM
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02-14-2008 9:36 AM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Jesus said "only through me"
Regards
DL

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Message 35 of 63 (455862)
02-14-2008 9:43 AM
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02-14-2008 9:41 AM


Re: All Scripture is God Breathed and Profitable
Where?
Regards
DL

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