Does Eve know God more than Adam?

Could you point out to me the passage or verse that this assumption is based on?Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Thanks. But I really don't know if I should accept your answer as the answer of "GreatestIam" whom I asked.The question was from what passage does s/he derive the assumption that to know good and evil is to know God.You have replied with a verse that where God says that the couple have become like God knowing good and evil.I think could still be distinct from knowing God Himself. They obtain some ability "like God". Doesn't necessarily mean that by this they now know God. Does it?The passage Genesis 3:22 involves God expelling man from the garden. In the rest of the Bible do we see God expelling the ones who come to know God? I think it is more the case that the ones from whom God distances Himself are those who do NOT know God.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Yes He can. And in the record of the Bible many times He did.In Jeremiah God says "And I will bring him near, and he will approach Me. For who else would be bold enough to approach Me? declares Jehovah." (Jer. 30:21)Appaently, God being omnipresent does not negate the need for us to draw near to Him or for Him to cause us to come near to Him."Return, thou backsliding Israel ..." (Jer. 3:12)Many such exhortations from God for His people to return to Him prove that we can be away in heart from the omnipresent God.Am I right? See also Jeremiah 4:1. And what about Malachi 3:7 - "Return unto Me and I will return unto you..."?Here God and man need to return to each other. His omnipresence does not mean that we cannot be away from Him or He from us in some important sense of the heart. What passages would you point to to demonstrate:1.) ANY "get to heaven"2.) "ALL" "get to heaven" I'd like to reserve comment on Genesis chapter 3 until I get a better picture of how you would answer the above questions.ThanksEdited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

It is good to reference what the Bible says.But if you cherry pick those passages only which reinforce what you hold as pre-conceived beliefs, aren't you concerned that you will get a skewed picture of God?I don't think many people begin by accepting everything they read in the Bible. But to start to receive utterances is a beginning. I think it is good to muse on what God has said. Then continue to muse on what ELSE God has said. I let the Bible guide my logic. I learn what the Bible has said. Then I continue to learn what ELSE the Bible has said.I recommend this growth and gradual enlargement of acceptance for the best all-inclusive and well balanced, well rounded revelation of God and His ways.The very book you are quoting, Deuteronomy, has much to reveal about God's interaction with Moses, Aaron, and Israel that needs to be contemplated as well as His being the Rock whos work is perfect.Have you considered the OTHER things which the book of Deuteronomy adds to that revelation of God? I don't like to go selectively through cherry picking only those passages which reinforce my favorite ideas about this God.I enjoy reading that which rubs my fur the wrong way, so to speak. For a well rounded and balanced diet of all the truths that I need about God, I try to "Amen" all its passages.I wish you would open up and consider that what else the Bible says is also important. We can be made large enough to embrace even paradoxical attributes of God as long as we draw near to know Him in the Holy Spirit. It would be enough right now, if I could encourage you to open up and allow all that is spoken in the Word of God to find a place in your concept.My experience is that I NEED those truths also, that seem to be not my favorite ones.If you get on a "one-liner" your trajectory will be off. And you will arrive at some strange and even heretical teachings.I suggest you try to prayerfully say "Amen" to all that the Bible says for one week. Just try for one week to utter "Amen" in agreement to all that you read in this book without picking and choosing your pet attriubutes of God.The result will be you will understand more and deeper the Bible and have greater joy in doing so.If not then you'll have to say all you want to know is Deuteronomy 32:4. You stop there. That far and no farther. I think that will be a loss to you.Consider also Jeremiah 18:1-6Can we embrace both revelations? Don't you want to be enlarged by God to be able to embrace both revelations of Deut. 32:4 and Jeremiah 18:1-6?I do. I need both truths in order to live unto God."Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out from the mouth of God." - Jesus quoting Deuteronomy Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Yes. Like there. Like everywhere if you know how allow the Holy Spirit room in your being.Like everywhere because "All Scripture is God breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rigthteousness that the man of God may be complete, fully equiped for every good work" (2 tim. 3:16,17)If you think by Amen I mean go out and imitate everything you read that's your ignorance.But then again perhaps you don't know anything about the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Keep reading.Maybe you'll get clearer.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

The Bible tells us that ALL Scripture is profitable ... for the person whose aim is to be a "man of God."If you're not interested in being a "man of God," I don't know how profitable any passage will be to you.

I lost track a little of what this conversation was about. But your last submission reads: Now if the Bible itself says that Jesus spoke thus and such in parables it is obvious that some things written in the Bible are to be taken parabolically.If some things are told us plainly that they are "signs" (ie. Rev. 1:1) then it is obvious that some of these matters are to be taken symbolicially.If some people or places have names which are indicative of thier personalities or of important events which happened to be associated with them, then it is very probable if not sometimes obvious, that the name should have both a historical significance as well as symbolic.If you say I am a fool for believing that God created the universe, or that Christ is the Son of God, or the He died a redemptive death on the cross, or that He rose from the dead on the third day, or that He is the life giving Holy Spirit Who can be received into man today ... I gladly accept the label of "fool" for believing these things.The bottom line here is that there are places where I take the Bible to mean something literally and there are places where I take it to mean symbolism. And there are places where it is a combination of both literal and symbiolic.I don't think the skill to discriminate which is which comes quickly or easily. I think it takes time, experience, patience, prayer and fellowship with other believers before one commits to a certain understanding.And there are places where sincere people can have disagreement.I have not quickly reviewed what we were talking about before (as I really should). But that's my answer to your last post.One thing I do believe is that for God to perform a miracle is not surprising to me. At times He did so. He did not always do so. And at many times when it was wanted that He do so He did not.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Okay, I briefly reviewed how we got into this exchange.I talked about the profit of saying "Amen" to all of the Scripture and you objected.Then I pointed out how all Scripture is spiritually profitable and you still object.You don't understand the nature of the Word of God and how it profits man. You also don't understand the economy (OIKONOMIA or household management ) of God and what He is doing with man.You don't understand how the Word of God is designed to most importantly bring us into contact with God and allow God to infuse His Spirit into our beings.You don't understand how to read the Bible with the excercise or your regenerated human spirit.Maybe you are not born again. Maybe your human spirit is still comatose and deadened and you are in need of the regeneration of the Spirit of Christ.But I am glad you are at least reading the Bible. You may come into believing in Christ and receiving Him into your spirit by reading. That is if you have a willingness to be changed by God and are opened in your heart to receive the resurrected and living Jesus as the Lord. Then you may eventually learn that we should come to the Bible at the same time as coming to God. We should always come to the Bible to receive God and touch God inwardly.I am not suggesting playing a kind of Russian Roulette randomly going out to imitate whatever passage your finger falls on. Nor am I suggesting that you hunt for perculiar passages of some negative tone and decide that they are the basis of your daily behavior.I am saying the entire Bible is inspired with the Spirit of God and can infuse us with the divine element.If you sit down to a turkey dinner you will not get much from the feathers. And you don't need to search for bones to choke on. But all in all the turkey is a delicious feast if you come hungry for its nourishment and taste. Even licking a bone can be good.So, I have found it profitable to "Amen" the Bible in every place. The Holy Spirit will gradually train you if you are not stubburn, to dicern both the Logos of truth and the Rhema of His instanct up to date speaking expressly to your personal circumstances and life.

Constantine did not dicide what books made up the New Testament books. The the canon is not an authoritative list of books it is a list of authoritative books.The books did not have authenticity bestowed upon them to make them canonical. The authenticity was discovered and recognized. I don't know what you mean by "hybrid". But the New Testament says that the true God is the God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent. So this is the true God and eternal life in the New Testament means the Trinity. But even more importantly it is the experience of the Trinity which counts. That is why John says "THIS ... is the true God" in a subjective way.Now here is the passage: The word "this" in the phrase "this is the true God and eternal life" refers back to "Him Who is true and also to "His Son Jesus Christ"This One is a Trinity - Father - Son - and Holy Spirit. However in this passage only the Father and the Son are highlighted. Elsewhere we see the Spirit included." ... we might know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ."The regenerated and born again believers know Him who is true and are in the realm and sphere of Him who is true. To be in the realm of Him who is true is to be in His Son Jesus Christ. And being in the true one and in His Son is being in the true God and having eternal life.So to follow the true God is to live IN the true God and allow the true God to live out from within us. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children keep yourselves from idols."Nothing should replace the true God and eternal life. Anything usurping His preeminence in our lives can become an idol. For THIS - this Triune God into Whom we may organically enter and within Whom we may live - is the true God and eternal life.That is the One Who sent His Son Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the divine "this" Who is the true God and eternal life. God's eternal purpose is to dispense Himself into man that He and man may be united together. Man was created to receive God as life and live in an interwoven and united incorporation with God - God in man and man in God.This is the teaching of the Bible and the true Gospel.

That's pretty ignorant.I find it ignorant even on a secular level. Take a highschool history course.You might start with an inquiry into the creation of the terms BC and AD.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.