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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Are you saying that the miller-urey experiment is presented without the objections that have been raised against it?
That a one-sided view of this work is given? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-04-2004 10:29 AM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-04-2004 10:32 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Can you link me to an example of this? you mentioned "popular science" - is this a magazine?
I have to ask, you understand the difference between evolution and Abiogensis?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: You seem to be have misunderstood evolution - we don't become "better" when we evolve - we become better for the enviroment that we exist in. Do you understand the difference?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
No I think that's fine Ned, I think that a discussion of the basics* is required (no disrespect intended Jesusfreak).
Jesusfreak - anything there you don't get or would like us to expand on? * (what is a theory?, what is a scientific fact? and some general evolution stuff) This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-04-2004 05:24 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
And what does this books say that the experiment tells us about Evolution rather than Abiogensis?
http://www.glencoe.com/sec/science/earthscience/...{Shortened display form of URL, to restore page width to normal - Adminnemooseus} is this the book? This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 11-10-2004 02:45 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
And you understand now that evolution is not the "creation of life"?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: I don't mean to be rude - but you seem to grasp a understanding of basic terms or even what evolution actually is - I doubt this to the case.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
But where - I am familar with that textbook and it is not being used to prove evolution.
Unless you could quote the section that does this?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Can I be honest?
This happens every six weeks or so - A creationist shows up, makes those claims and is then shot down in flames. If you could provide this evidence, you would be the first I can remember.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: But where? you keep saying this and have, to date, failed to provide any evidence of this. You have made a claim about the use of this experiment to prove evolution. You have so far failed to provide any evidence at all to back this claim. Can you provide such evidence? A quote, a reference from a source? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 11-05-2004 04:10 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Yes - that was the site I cited. However I made no suggestion it supported JF's claims. I was hoping he could explain how it did, because I couldn't see how.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Unless you can provide us with a quote to support this position, this is currently unproven.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I totally agree.
You know, we have this every few months - have we ever seen one of those mystical textbooks that "tell lies" or apply the theory of evolution where it shouldn't go?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
any chance of ever producing a quote to support your postion? or should we consider the matter closed?
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
No - a quote from one of those science text-books that links this experiment with evolution. You claimed to have one of those textbooks in your possession and said that you would quote the relevent passage when you had the time.
Are you able to quote from such a textbook or will you retract your claim.
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