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Rrhain
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Message 147 of 301 (184345)
02-10-2005 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by nator
02-09-2005 9:56 PM


But wait, there's more
schrafinator responds to sfs:
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I also recall those rules including something about not judging others,
A small correction:
Actually, the Bible doesn't say that we shouldn't judge others at all.
It says that we shouldn't judge others unless we are prepared to be judged ourselves.
Close, but it's even more insidious. People seem to remember Matthew 7:1 but can't seem to remember that it's immediately followed by 7:2:
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
It says we shouldn't judge others lest you receive the same judgement. Too many people seem to think that the admonition is connected to the "he who is without sin" concept and thus, so long as they think they haven't committed the sin, it is perfectly fine to condemn everybody else. But that isn't what it says. It is saying that if you judge someone else, you will receive the exact same judgement regardless.
Stone someone and you will be stoned, yourself.

Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

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Rrhain
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Message 181 of 301 (186084)
02-17-2005 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by Percy
02-11-2005 8:12 AM


Re: Unitarian?
Percy writes:
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I'm guessing that you're implying there are sects of Christianity that do not accept the trinity, perhaps you can clarify, but since most people think of Christianity as a Christ-based movement, I don't normally describe myself as a Christian.
Well, they're called "Unitarians," for one thing.
Now, now, don't get ahead of me. I am perfectly aware that the current Unitarian/Universalist movement is extremely tolerant of everybody's philosophical attitude. Hell, you can be an atheist and still call yourself a Unitarian and they don't mind and will welcome and accept you. You can even be a minister in the church and be an atheist. It's very weird.
I'm talking about the origins of Unitarianism. It grew as a reaction to the insistence in Protestantism upon the trinity. Michael Servetus was burned at the stake for denying the trinity. It found a big foothold in England during the 17th and 18th centuries and the Neoclassicism of the time certainly helped. With the likes of Emerson and Parker getting behind it, it became a religion of reason and tolerance, focusing on universal salvation for everyone (thus the "Universalist" part of the current UU movement).
Again, while you can find UUs of any particular stripe, the general covenant of the church is, "In the love of truth, and in the spirit of Jesus, we unite for worship of God and the service of man," and thus we see the connection to Christianity even today.

Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

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