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Author Topic:   Evolution has been Disproven
be LIE ve
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Message 273 of 301 (259243)
11-12-2005 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Whirlwind
10-31-2005 5:17 AM


i find this subject matter interesting. due to many aspects of human nature, people develop a very narrow idea of the universe. in our lives, we see things that have a beginning, a middle, and an end. in astrophysics, this sort of concept doesnt necessarily apply. i see the question asked many times "so whats the point of human life?" my answer is simply this, who ever said that there HAD to be a point? perhaps things are the way they are, simply because thats the way they are, and thats the way they always have been. obviously this view has conflict with the human ego, but sometimes the truth hurts (as history has shown us). Many things in this universe we're just begining to learn about have recurring nature. in laymans terms, its foolish to look at things as begining, middle, end, versus a point in a loop/cycle. molecular probability and human conciousness have very interesting contributions to this topic, but i feel i've gotten too far off topic already, my apologies. concerning life coming from non-life, life has suprisingly simple ingredients that just require difficult situations to make the change to "life" as you would say. organic molecules consist of things present all over the place, molecules of carbon atoms, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc. life does come from non-life, just not spontaneously (saying that it as an exothermic process, i.e. energy is required to form organic molecules etc.)

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Message 274 of 301 (259250)
11-12-2005 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Gordon
11-10-2005 11:39 PM


Re: Jigsaws
lets not make such hasty assumptions about chemistry and solubility here. simply being in a negative concentration situation doesnt necessarily mean the molecule is going to dissolve in water. many factors play a role including the nature of the molecules in question, temperature, pH, other molecules present, etc. dehydration synthesis often requires large amounts of energy to form stronger bonds. not every bond is alike, and different types of bonding have different activation energies. hydrogen bonding is particularly strong, and often takes more than just being out of concentration to cause them to break down. youre also misusing the nature of concentrations. concentrations relate more to the movement of molecules than they do the structure of molecules in this situation. things move from a high concentration to a low concentration, this is usually shown with synthetic membranes, but anyways. this is not to say that concentration doesnt drive chemical reactions, but in this particular case, molecular distribution would play more of a role than chemical processes.
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